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jfz9580m

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10. Just an outside the US perspective Uncle Joe
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 10:57 AM
Aug 2

I live in one of the few Marxist states in The global south..

The actual implementation of their version of Marxism looks indistinguishable from capitalism. Crony business partners with whom they destroy the environment and exploit data mining, jump on fads like AI.

I have never read about Marxism or capitalism or taken a class on them. But the deregulated and corruption filled end result seems pretty similar.

Further they treat workers like shit. The garbage workers here went on strike protesting meagre pay, but no dice sadly. I am rooting for them-mostly poor women.
Meanwhile our moron of a cm boasts pathetic “youth festivals”, glorifies meat consumption and yada yada.
It’s a junk-like/bullshit or extractive/rapacious environment destroying style of cancer like growth, while making perfunctory and clearly insincere throwaway remarks about climate change.

He fired the one competent and respectable woman in his administration because she was too popular I guess. I liked her. If she was representative, I would have a different view. She was a schoolteacher. I don’t think this guy is particularly educated, but he knows how to wheel and deal.

They ignored an environmental scientist’s report warning of overdevelopment in some ecologically sensitive parts of the state. It was watered down and the recommendations ignored, leading to landslides and loss of life (which they dismissed).

They are generally misogynistic “boys will be boys” harassers to boot.

I don’t want to say which state to protect my privacy and I lightly skewed the exact details a bit.

And they are Marxists. If this is Marxism, I can’t see that it’s much better.

I’d take an Elizabeth Warren or Claudia Sheinbaum any day over creeps like these. Not sure what Sheinbaum identifies as though her dad was in a communist party.

Just offering an outside US perspective. The label doesn’t matter with this kind of implementation.

I guess China is similar.

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Important studies on this topic include "The Breakdown of Nations" by Leopold Kohr (1952), dedl67 Aug 2 #1
MOST interesting. This whole thread is, most definitely. Small really IS beautiful. calimary Aug 2 #15
Ah yes, the predictions of Karl Marx Farmer-Rick Aug 2 #2
It's ironic, the people that trash Marx the most are those most fervently working Uncle Joe Aug 2 #7
Just an outside the US perspective Uncle Joe jfz9580m Aug 2 #10
Marx did not advocate Marxism Farmer-Rick Aug 2 #14
Kick. Great stuff & reading rec. Thanks for posting! bronxiteforever Aug 2 #3
Supposedly celebrity chefs are an early sign of collapse nuxvomica Aug 2 #4
That's been going on for years NJCher Aug 2 #6
Capitalism is an outdated system NJCher Aug 2 #5
I get emails from a credit card company asking me to rate their automated phone payment system . . . hatrack Aug 2 #9
I think NJCher Aug 2 #12
I don't agree with this: "I'm optimistic about people." live love laugh Aug 2 #8
Yeah I gotta agree jfz9580m Aug 2 #11
Thank you! It's edifying to read of a sweeping perspective & difference between past regional & current global factors, ancianita Aug 2 #13
woo hoo! NJCher Aug 2 #16
Well, yes, extreme inequality tends to lead to revolutions, "Let them eat cake!" OKIsItJustMe Aug 2 #17
Must be a new version of history Progressive dog Aug 2 #18
"Reality TV" is our Circus ThoughtCriminal Aug 2 #19
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