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Music Appreciation

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highplainsdem

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Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:42 AM Jul 1

Rick Beato - So It Begins...Is This A Real Band Or AI? - UPDATE, July 5 [View all]

Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:51 PM - Edit history (2)

See reply 10 for the July 5 update.

Comments on this below the video. Don't look at them if you don't want the answer to Rick's question. Though you can probably guess what it is from the first half of the video title.




I ran across that video last night, too late to want to post about it till this morning, when I discovered there was already a thread about it in the Lounge

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182193873

which I've posted multiple replies in (a couple about the term "SlopBot" apparently being used to insult people who post to object to AI slop).

But I want to copy my reply 11 there here:

I ran across Rick Beato's video about this last night - I'll post that at the end of this reply - and had

planned to post about "Velvet Sundown" this morning, but logged in to see you already had. Beato is also sure it's AI, btw, and he isn't happy about whoever is behind this AI slop getting paid off the work of other people whose music was stolen to train the AI.

What do you think of this music?


It's homogenized crap. AI slop created only through the theft of all the copyrighted music the AI model used could be trained on.

Does it bother you that it's created through artificial intelligence, or do you enjoy it despite that?


If it DOESN'T bother you that generative AI was trained via the theft of the world's intellectual property, then you're giving a thumbs up to the theft and are trying for an ethics-free and conscience-free discussion of something that exists only because of that theft.

LudwigPastorius (reply 6) isn't the only person who suspects Spotify created this and is doing so to trick customers and fill up playlists with music they own and can use without paying royalties. (Spotify has already been filling up playlists with mediocre music that's apparently work for hire that they had created so they wouldn't have to pay royalties. I posted about Rick Beato's video on that a year or two ago.)

So this is a two-pronged attack on real music by real artists - first by using illegally trained AI, and then by diverting their users' attention to fake music Spotify owns and through that stealing revenue from real artists on Spotify.

If you think that's defensible, I'd like to hear that defense.


EDITING OUT Rick Beato's new video, since it's already in this OP.


Editing to add a short clip from the earlier Rick Beato video I referred to above:




Editing again to link to a DU thread from last December about another way Spotify harms musicians and exploits users not caring enough about who created the music:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219837180



Anyway, I'm more than a bit unhappy that AI music on Spotify, quite likely created by Spotify, has been streamed more than half a million times, suggesting they're promoting it to listeners. Some of whom are also partly to blame if they don't care enough about real music from real artists. Those people aren't really appreciating music. They're listening mindlessly to what corporations and people who don't give a damn about real music feed them.
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