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pat_k

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62. Glad there's some improvement today. You may want to...
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 03:40 PM
Oct 2025

...get a referral to a Rheumatologist for screening. Although gradual onset is common, there are cases of "explosive" onset in "non-traditional" larger joints that can come on fast and resolve fast.

AI summary of various Rheumatoid presentations and mimics.

While classic rheumatoid arthritis (RA) typically has a gradual onset, sudden or acute onset is possible, especially in older adults. Other conditions, including reactive arthritis and palindromic rheumatism, can also cause sudden joint pain and are often mistaken for RA.

Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)

Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.

Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.

Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.

Palindromic rheumatism (PR)

This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.

Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.

Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.

Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.

Reactive arthritis

This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.

Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.

Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.

Seronegative spondyloarthropathies

This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.

Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.

Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.

Other mimics

Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:

Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.

Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.

Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients.

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I hope you get the 20 years back tomorrow. Harker Oct 2025 #1
I hope so... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #2
Mrs. Charms there, ready to drive you if needed? Harker Oct 2025 #7
She is, but I doubt I could get into the car. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #9
They can come to you, I hope. Harker Oct 2025 #13
I took an ambulance ONCE LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #14
I'm sure you can concoct an implausible back story to shut up the vultures. Harker Oct 2025 #17
I...I....injured my genitals with a wooden headed axe! LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #18
Well, it has plausibility going for it. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #21
Jeez Mr. Charms....is it a full moon? LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #22
It seems we age in sudden leaps and not gradually biophile Oct 2025 #3
It might be spinal related... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #6
Any reason you might have injured your coccyx ? I suffered a pull to my coccygeal ligament picking up a piece of paper. eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #24
The painful touch isn't exactly at my coccyx... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #26
Per dose. Four doses per day. Warned not to continue beyond 3-4 days. eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #30
24 grams a day???????? LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #32
I'm pretty sure the caloric value was non-neglible. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #33
Maximum dose suggested is 4,000 mg/day. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #35
I don't recall that they did. OTOH, I had no other health issues, and was (reasonably) young and healthy. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 #36
Have you ever had a compression fracture? Marthe48 Oct 2025 #40
Thanks Marthe...no compression fracture that I know of. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #41
Maybe a nerve is pinched Marthe48 Oct 2025 #43
Yeah, no one warned me PatSeg Oct 2025 #23
SO SORRY! elleng Oct 2025 #4
Oh No!!! calimary Oct 2025 #5
Hope you are feeling better LuckyCharms. debm55 Oct 2025 #8
You didn't just STOP taking opioids today after having taken them the past couple of days? AZJonnie Oct 2025 #10
Thanks Jonnie... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #12
My dear LuckyCharms! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2025 #11
Personally, I would head straight to E.R. or call 911 to come get me. Pain is a message. LoisB Oct 2025 #15
Get-your-ass-to-the-hospital. Please! chouchou Oct 2025 #16
Thinking seriously about it... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #20
Sounds like your best option PatSeg Oct 2025 #25
Horrible! I'm so sorry! Pain sucks! Diamond_Dog Oct 2025 #19
Is it possible that you are dehydrated? Hope22 Oct 2025 #27
Thank you. No...I drink 2 liters of water a day, plus 2 huge mugs of decaf. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #31
Pain is a message Lucky. mnhtnbb Oct 2025 #28
My dear LC, holding you in light, with lots of very gentle virtual hugs. niyad Oct 2025 #29
I'm really sorry to hear that LuckyCharms, JMCKUSICK Oct 2025 #34
My spine is in bad shape John... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #38
Arthritis does flare up and in unpredictable ways. soldierant Oct 2025 #49
I'm with you, good luck JMCKUSICK Oct 2025 #52
Any change in medication? Easterncedar Oct 2025 #37
I've been taking a statin for decades. No change in dosage. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #39
Not that then Easterncedar Oct 2025 #42
Probably not the issue, but before I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis... pat_k Oct 2025 #44
Woah, LC! Maybe you should get an ambulance... electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #45
Pain ms.pamela Oct 2025 #50
Have you tried ibuprofen? iemanja Oct 2025 #46
My day like that was June 16/25 Mira Oct 2025 #47
Hang in there Brother BaronChocula Oct 2025 #48
Welcome to the club, (not) Bayard Oct 2025 #51
Hey, LC, I hope you are feeling better. Let us know, ok? Easterncedar Oct 2025 #53
I'm up and around today. Joint pain is slightly better... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #56
Good. Harker Oct 2025 #58
I use Equate 8 Hour Arthritis Pain Relief Emile Oct 2025 #54
Re: "Sudden Onset" - but this weekend you did say you occasionally couldn't walk without screaming... Donkees Oct 2025 #55
Well, the back pain wasn't sudden onset, but everything else was... LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #57
Maybe it is related to ''facet joint'' irritation ... Donkees Oct 2025 #59
Glad there's some improvement today. You may want to... pat_k Oct 2025 #62
Thanks so much for this information. LuckyCharms Oct 2025 #63
I know your pain, LC. I feel like that most of the time. I grin and bear it or take tylenol sometimes. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #60
Checking in on ya. Hopefully pain will lessen over the day. Don't do Too much! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #61
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