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In reply to the discussion: Oasis borrowed from T.Rex's Get It On for Cigarettes & Alcohol, but rocked much harder. Earthshakingly harder. [View all]
highplainsdem
(58,475 posts)22. The Beatles were accused of being derivative at times, too.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/beatles-5-boldest-rip-offs-54145/
The Beatles had four songwriters, too, and tons of help from a genius producer, George Martin, so they'd be more likely to catch anything derivative and rework it.
Except for a handful of songs from his brother Liam and other band members, Noel Gallagher wrote all the songs for Oasis himself. They'd be finished before anyone else in the band could notice something derivative Noel had missed.
And Noel's very open about having been influenced by other artists. He did go way overboard lifting a song from a Coke commercial for Shaker Maker, but I believe Coke got about half a million dollars for that, and there weren't any hard feelings since they used another Oasis song later for a Coke commercial.
As for this song...
I've always loved Get It On. My very favorite T.Rex song. One of my favorite songs ever. Brilliant - perfect - production. Tony Visconti is one of the greatest producers ever - like George Martin, a genius.
But if I compare Get It On to Cigarettes & Alcohol...
In terms of sound, Get It On would be a sleek little Vespa, purring along. Cigarettes & Alcohol is a Harley.
Get It On is more pop, while Cigarettes & Alcohol really rocks.
I can't imagine Get It On ever rocking a stadium the way Cigarettes & Alcohol does.
And the message of Cigarettes & Alcohol, about using those and cocaine to cope with dead-end jobs, hits much harder than Marc Bolan singing about his built-like-a-car girl with the blues in her shoes and her stockings.
Beatles’ 5 Boldest Rip-Offs
From the "Revolution" intro to the "I Feel Fine" riff, here are five times when the Fab Four swiped musical material from their influences
By Gavin Edwards
December 23, 2015
Accused of exploiting other artists’ songs in the Beatles, John Lennon defended himself by saying, “It wasn’t a rip-off; it was a love-in.” Paul McCartney’s take: “We pinch as much from other people as they pinch from us.”
“In the early years, I’d often carry around someone else’s song in my head,” Lennon said. “And only when I’d put it down on tape — because I can’t write music — would I consciously change it to my own melody, because I knew that otherwise somebody would sue me.” Perhaps the best example of the Beatles transforming a piece of music is in “Because”: It was drawn from Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata, but Lennon reversed the chord progression and then mutated it into something else.
While the Beatles drew inspiration from artists both famous and obscure, they almost always made whatever they were borrowing into something new, because they were a creative group of lads and because they were careful to cover their tracks. That’s almost always. Here’s five examples where their pinches got more blatant.
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From the "Revolution" intro to the "I Feel Fine" riff, here are five times when the Fab Four swiped musical material from their influences
By Gavin Edwards
December 23, 2015
Accused of exploiting other artists’ songs in the Beatles, John Lennon defended himself by saying, “It wasn’t a rip-off; it was a love-in.” Paul McCartney’s take: “We pinch as much from other people as they pinch from us.”
“In the early years, I’d often carry around someone else’s song in my head,” Lennon said. “And only when I’d put it down on tape — because I can’t write music — would I consciously change it to my own melody, because I knew that otherwise somebody would sue me.” Perhaps the best example of the Beatles transforming a piece of music is in “Because”: It was drawn from Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata, but Lennon reversed the chord progression and then mutated it into something else.
While the Beatles drew inspiration from artists both famous and obscure, they almost always made whatever they were borrowing into something new, because they were a creative group of lads and because they were careful to cover their tracks. That’s almost always. Here’s five examples where their pinches got more blatant.
-snip-
The Beatles had four songwriters, too, and tons of help from a genius producer, George Martin, so they'd be more likely to catch anything derivative and rework it.
Except for a handful of songs from his brother Liam and other band members, Noel Gallagher wrote all the songs for Oasis himself. They'd be finished before anyone else in the band could notice something derivative Noel had missed.
And Noel's very open about having been influenced by other artists. He did go way overboard lifting a song from a Coke commercial for Shaker Maker, but I believe Coke got about half a million dollars for that, and there weren't any hard feelings since they used another Oasis song later for a Coke commercial.
As for this song...
I've always loved Get It On. My very favorite T.Rex song. One of my favorite songs ever. Brilliant - perfect - production. Tony Visconti is one of the greatest producers ever - like George Martin, a genius.
But if I compare Get It On to Cigarettes & Alcohol...
In terms of sound, Get It On would be a sleek little Vespa, purring along. Cigarettes & Alcohol is a Harley.
Get It On is more pop, while Cigarettes & Alcohol really rocks.
I can't imagine Get It On ever rocking a stadium the way Cigarettes & Alcohol does.
And the message of Cigarettes & Alcohol, about using those and cocaine to cope with dead-end jobs, hits much harder than Marc Bolan singing about his built-like-a-car girl with the blues in her shoes and her stockings.
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Oasis borrowed from T.Rex's Get It On for Cigarettes & Alcohol, but rocked much harder. Earthshakingly harder. [View all]
highplainsdem
Tuesday
OP
The term was first used before Oasis had that huge instant success. It never really fit them.
highplainsdem
Tuesday
#5
The Beatles, Sex Pistols and Stone Roses are the bands they mention most. But you're right that glam rock,
highplainsdem
Tuesday
#8
Considering that Liam's standard uniform is a parka, baggy jeans and athletic shoes, I don't think he'd've
highplainsdem
Tuesday
#10
Nope. That's a colorful parka, and Liam and Noel both own a lot of colorful as well as fairly drab parkas.
highplainsdem
Yesterday
#16
Okay. I didn't realize you were talking about what Liam might've done if he'd been born 20 years earlier
highplainsdem
Yesterday
#18
Liked his music, thought the glam costumes were ridiculous. No matter who wore them.
highplainsdem
Yesterday
#20
How many people danced to "You're in my heart, you're in my soul" unaware of the soccer ⚽️ reference?
underpants
3 hrs ago
#24
That's the Poznan, which was started by a Polish football (soccer) team and adopted by the Manchester
highplainsdem
Tuesday
#12