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In reply to the discussion: US 'ties security guarantees to Ukraine giving up Donbas' [View all]xocetaceans
(4,362 posts)9. How did the US security guarantees for Greenland and Denmark work out? It seems we were just threatening an ...
... invasion or some other means of annexing Greenland last week, weren't we?
Security guarantees from the US under the Trump Administration are at best laughable and should never be taken to be worth anything. That is sad to say, but it is true. Besides, the US already gave Ukraine security guarantees when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons:
Ukraine, Nuclear Weapons, and Security Assurances at a Glance
Last Reviewed
March 2022
Contact: Daryl G. Kimball, Executive Director, (202) 463-8270 x107
At the time of Ukraines independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances, and in December 1994, Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapon state-party to the 1968 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The last strategic nuclear delivery vehicle in Ukraine was eliminated in 2001 under the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START). It took years of political maneuvering and diplomatic work, starting with the Lisbon Protocol in 1992, to remove the weapons and nuclear infrastructure from Ukraine.
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1994 Trilateral Statement
The Massandra Accords set the stage for the ultimately successful trilateral talks. As the United States mediated between Russia and Ukraine, the three countries signed the Trilateral Statement on January 14, 1994. Ukraine committed to full disarmament, including strategic weapons, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia. Ukraine agreed to transfer its nuclear warheads to Russia and accepted U.S. assistance in dismantling missiles, bombers, and nuclear infrastructure. Ukraines warheads would be dismantled in Russia, and Ukraine would receive compensation for the commercial value of the highly enriched uranium. Ukraine ratified START on February 3, 1994, repealing its earlier preconditions, but it would not accede to the NPT without further security assurances.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ukraine-nuclear-weapons-and-security-assurances-glance
Last Reviewed
March 2022
Contact: Daryl G. Kimball, Executive Director, (202) 463-8270 x107
At the time of Ukraines independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances, and in December 1994, Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapon state-party to the 1968 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The last strategic nuclear delivery vehicle in Ukraine was eliminated in 2001 under the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START). It took years of political maneuvering and diplomatic work, starting with the Lisbon Protocol in 1992, to remove the weapons and nuclear infrastructure from Ukraine.
...
1994 Trilateral Statement
The Massandra Accords set the stage for the ultimately successful trilateral talks. As the United States mediated between Russia and Ukraine, the three countries signed the Trilateral Statement on January 14, 1994. Ukraine committed to full disarmament, including strategic weapons, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia. Ukraine agreed to transfer its nuclear warheads to Russia and accepted U.S. assistance in dismantling missiles, bombers, and nuclear infrastructure. Ukraines warheads would be dismantled in Russia, and Ukraine would receive compensation for the commercial value of the highly enriched uranium. Ukraine ratified START on February 3, 1994, repealing its earlier preconditions, but it would not accede to the NPT without further security assurances.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ukraine-nuclear-weapons-and-security-assurances-glance
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trump will do everything he can to see ukraine fall because Zelensky didn't submit to his shakedown in 2019.
PSPS
Tuesday
#7
How did the US security guarantees for Greenland and Denmark work out? It seems we were just threatening an ...
xocetaceans
Tuesday
#9
Ukraine should string Trump along with lies while getting more supplies from US and EU, strike deep into Russia
ChicagoTeamster
Tuesday
#12
A couple of months ago Starmer and Rutte talked about zones of control for European nations
ChicagoTeamster
21 hrs ago
#25
But hostilities won't end until Russia withdraws or is defeated. Ukraine will never concede territory nor should they.
ChicagoTeamster
18 hrs ago
#30
They also have lots of coal reserves and was a major industrial and agricultural hub.
ChicagoTeamster
21 hrs ago
#26
Typical ruzzian negotiation tactic... Make demand the maximum, do not ask, demand something that has never been yours
mitch96
Tuesday
#16
What isn't mentioned is Crimea, a much more valuable piece of real estate.
Safe as Milk
Yesterday
#23