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BumRushDaShow

(164,134 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:20 PM 11 hrs ago

Hegseth cites 'fog of war' in defending follow-on strike in scrutinized attack on alleged drug boat [View all]

Source: AP

Updated 2:10 PM EST, December 2, 2025


WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth cited the “fog of war” in defending a follow-up strike on an alleged drug-carrying boat in the Caribbean Sea earlier this year.

During Tuesday’s cabinet meeting at the White House, Hegseth said that he did not see that there were survivors in the water when the second strike was ordered and launched in early September, saying that “the thing was on fire” and citing the “fog of war” in defending the strike.

Hegseth also said he “didn’t stick around” for the remainder of the mission following the first strike, and said that the admiral in charge had “made the right call” in ordering it, which he “had complete authority to do.”

The Washington Post first reported that Hegseth issued a verbal order for the second strike that killed survivors on the boat. On Monday, the White House said that Navy Vice Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley acted “within his authority and the law” when he ordered the second strike.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-trump-venezuela-540ae279827e02105e089f1bd5af37a6



“the thing was on fire”


What is a "thing"? It was a civilian boat with civilians on it. No one bothered to board it to determine what its intentions were.

citing the “fog of war”


When did the U.S. (CONGRESS) "declare war"?
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Circling back to kill civilians floating in the water is MURDER, not fog of war. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #1
There is no F...king War. Not even a Congressional Resolution, but less a Congressional Declaration of War. hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #2
Exactly. There is NO WAR. We are looking at MURDER. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #12
Right?! What war? yardwork 9 hrs ago #20
Killing men just fishing on their boat is called murder. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #21
Kelly was right. This is all a big game to them. ananda 11 hrs ago #3
I missed the part where we declared war on Venezuela. Ray Bruns 11 hrs ago #4
More like the fog of too much booze.nt moniss 11 hrs ago #5
Lol, beat me to it! Blumancru 6 hrs ago #29
Drunk on Power 2na fisherman 3 hrs ago #43
Gee. If Robert McNamara could go stock free by writing a book about "Fog of War" erronis 11 hrs ago #6
Not defending Robert McNamara, but this is no comparison ... FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #24
There was the Tonkin Gulf Resolution of August 1964 RazorbackExpat 5 hrs ago #35
Just heard a replay of Pete's "fog of war" blather. He doesn't even know what allegorical oracle 6 hrs ago #25
You are right. From Pete's perspective, the fog is after the 4th or 5th shot of whiskey. erronis 6 hrs ago #28
What a fucking joke. chowder66 11 hrs ago #7
Total fucking bullshit. He's a fucking liar and murderer. LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #8
Since when have we been at war? Did Congress declare war and I missed it?? Rhiannon12866 11 hrs ago #9
A leader in his position... Mike Nelson 11 hrs ago #10
You would need the other side returning fire for it to be a fog of war. Baitball Blogger 11 hrs ago #11
The "fog of war"? Inf**kingcredible! patphil 10 hrs ago #13
"fog of war" my old soldier ass AverageOldGuy 10 hrs ago #14
You need to change your moniker. COL Mustard 3 hrs ago #41
"Fog of war" is how women describe the feeling after Hegseth has been near their drinks Prairie Gates 10 hrs ago #15
Kegsbreath lying again sakabatou 10 hrs ago #16
So Bradley will be giving a classified briefing on Thursday, Native 10 hrs ago #17
Is that what they're calling drunken stupor now? Buddyzbuddy 10 hrs ago #18
Just exactly how much chaos and uncertainty (fog) is there when no one is shooting back at you? LudwigPastorius 9 hrs ago #19
Fog of cosplaying. If he can't HANDLE a fisherman boat, what about a fleet of destroyers? WEAK!!! nt Exp 7 hrs ago #22
"Fog of War"? sheshe2 6 hrs ago #23
He's full of shit Warpy 6 hrs ago #26
Hegseth is trying to throw Admiral Bradley under the bus. TomSlick 6 hrs ago #27
Fog of murder. Harker 6 hrs ago #30
Us folks that aren't handsome lethal warriors, call it being shit faced. Swede 6 hrs ago #31
Speaking of that, I just spotted this story - BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #32
That raccoon was framed. He was just the wingman. nt eppur_se_muova 5 hrs ago #33
Oh my God, that's hilarious!!!! COL Mustard 4 hrs ago #40
Does he mean 'the fog of BEER'? I think he means the fog of beer.. Jack Valentino 5 hrs ago #34
The murderous jerk has gone to "the fog of war" defense. Lame. This ain't Vietnam dude. BradBo 4 hrs ago #36
'Fog of War' Aussie105 4 hrs ago #37
Paging Admiral Bradley...your bus is waiting.... COL Mustard 4 hrs ago #38
More like enigmania 4 hrs ago #39
Hegseth loves terms like "fog of war", it makes him feel manly BlueWaveNeverEnd 3 hrs ago #42
The only fog is between his ears. Sneederbunk 2 hrs ago #44
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