Hegseth cites 'fog of war' in defending follow-on strike in scrutinized attack on alleged drug boat
Source: AP
Updated 2:10 PM EST, December 2, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth cited the fog of war in defending a follow-up strike on an alleged drug-carrying boat in the Caribbean Sea earlier this year.
During Tuesdays cabinet meeting at the White House, Hegseth said that he did not see that there were survivors in the water when the second strike was ordered and launched in early September, saying that the thing was on fire and citing the fog of war in defending the strike.
Hegseth also said he didnt stick around for the remainder of the mission following the first strike, and said that the admiral in charge had made the right call in ordering it, which he had complete authority to do.
The Washington Post first reported that Hegseth issued a verbal order for the second strike that killed survivors on the boat. On Monday, the White House said that Navy Vice Adm. Frank Mitch Bradley acted within his authority and the law when he ordered the second strike.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-trump-venezuela-540ae279827e02105e089f1bd5af37a6
What is a "thing"? It was a civilian boat with civilians on it. No one bothered to board it to determine what its intentions were.
When did the U.S. (CONGRESS) "declare war"?
Irish_Dem
(78,483 posts)hlthe2b
(112,345 posts)Much less a metaphoric war. Mr. Macho-wannabe, whose insecurity literally SCREAMS from his words and "actions."
But, yes... MURDER!
Irish_Dem
(78,483 posts)yardwork
(68,699 posts)The U.S. aimed a missile at an unarmed fishing boat off the coast of Venezuela and when a couple people survived, we hit them again.
Not a war. We call this terrorism when other people do it.
Irish_Dem
(78,483 posts)And yes they are using murder to terrorize everyone.
ananda
(34,147 posts)They're like spoiled psychopathic children
who think they can get away with anything.
Ray Bruns
(5,842 posts)moniss
(8,514 posts)erronis
(22,190 posts)why wouldn't little drunkard pete try that exit door?
For those that are too old or too young: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fog_of_War
chowder66
(11,647 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,168 posts)Rhiannon12866
(247,931 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,869 posts)... should be miles above "the fog of war" in decision-making.
Baitball Blogger
(51,554 posts)In Hegseth's place, it was more bloodlust than fog of war.
patphil
(8,564 posts)Blowing up some small boats in international waters just because they can doesn't qualify for a "fog of war" condition.
This asshole's drunk on power.
AverageOldGuy
(3,215 posts)His goddam brain was fogged up on booze.
Hogsbreath is a former National Guard infantry officer. However, he NEVER EVEN ENROLLED IN OR REQUESTED TO BE ENROLLED IN SOME COURSES THAT ALL/MOST INFANTRY OFFICERS AND SOLDIERS COMPLETE.
-- Ranger -- some of the toughest and best small infantry unit training in the world
-- Airborne -- learn how to jump out of airplanes. And land safely.
-- Air Assault -- helicopter operations in combat
-- Pathfinder -- small unit goes in first, clears the way for follow-on small units
I completed all but Pathfinder, never figured I needed it. Active duty 1967-1995, Vietnam 1969-70.
Prairie Gates
(6,942 posts)sakabatou
(45,594 posts)Native
(7,282 posts)this should be very interesting.
Buddyzbuddy
(1,969 posts)LudwigPastorius
(13,920 posts)Criminals!