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83. What doesn't make sense to me is ...

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:39 PM

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"This is people being whipped to take one for the team so those who DO have elections coming up don't have to look bad"

The American public at large, and a huge majority of Democrats, supported this hard line position, even though it meant some short-term pain. So I don't understand how snatching defeat from the jaws of victory protects Senators running next year. I think this cowardice hurts every single Democrat. The public wants to be with us, but they see us as untrustworthy because we cave in so easily. Most people don't really hate Democrats. They mostly really like the policies we talk about. But they see us as pathetic and feckless.

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Senate advances plan to end historic shutdown in bipartisan breakthrough [View all] Polybius Nov 9 OP

Literally in tears angrychair Nov 9 #1

Good luck getting people to vote especially young people vercetti2021 Nov 9 #14

It's a gut punch, particularly after the momentum of Tuesday. yellow dahlia Nov 9 #27

Fuck this sucks. Initech Nov 9 #2

Guess the Farm and Grocery lobbies pulled some strings IbogaProject Nov 9 #3

And the travel and supply-chain businesses too nitpicked Monday #43

The overly rich again IbogaProject Monday #63

What the "deal" looks like progree Nov 9 #4

This will also fund Dep of Agriculture Deminpenn Nov 9 #6

Is a single word of your post to be backed by immediate legislation Bluetus Nov 9 #7

For the record on Schumer progree Nov 9 #15

I don't dispute that the 8 traitors knocked Schumer's legs from under him. But that just shows Bluetus Nov 9 #23

This was not him having his legs knocked out. This was protecting those who have elections coming up. Scrivener7 Monday #53

What??? Makes no sense. Bluetus Monday #55

You're not disagreeing with me. Not sure what you're saying makes no sense. Scrivener7 Monday #73

What doesn't make sense to me is ... Bluetus Monday #83

Yes. Again, we're not disagreeing. Schumer (or someone) wanted this. Rumor is that the airline industry Scrivener7 Monday #84

Agreed Bluetus Monday #87

Schumer orchestrated this chernabogg Nov 9 #28

They're still playing by outdated norms. Circa 2025, all Dems will feel the heat, regardless. nt Blasphemer Monday #34

In 2020ish, we learned that it only takes 2 assholes to make people hate the entire Dem Party Bluetus Monday #50

Conveniently, all those supporting it are not facing an election soon. Such leadership. Scrivener7 Monday #52

Correct - Schumer Opposes this deal KatyBR Monday #64

Unfortunately he doesn't stand for election until 2028 Bluetus Monday #81

It's my understanding that the 3 individual agency appropriations bills Deminpenn Monday #37

You suspect *WHAT* will pass? Bluetus Monday #51

First thing that came to mind reading the OP... IthinkThereforeIAM Monday #42

All of it is vague promises. Autumn Monday #75

Thune promised a vote? Now saying it will be in Dec. MY ASS! Bengus81 Monday #48

Stupidity squared! lark Monday #49

I feel your pain and your son's Jspur Monday #54

No shit popsdenver Monday #71

I agree with you 100 Jspur Monday #78

I hear you J popsdenver Monday #79

They are definitely going to attempt to destroy the remaining Jspur Monday #82

Schumer aint leading nothing quakerboy Monday #76

Absolutely nauseating. bagimin Nov 9 #5

It's still four votes short. James48 Nov 9 #8

What's taking so long? Polybius Nov 9 #9

Actually, someone else just said the last 4 are Republicans Polybius Nov 9 #10

Oh no. I'm heartbroken 💔 catrose Nov 9 #11

59-40 now Polybius Nov 9 #13

Post removed Post removed Nov 9 #12

Not a 'bunch' of spineless people, just the 8 dems necessary to pass the bill... Jack Valentino Nov 9 #17

Na i will vercetti2021 Nov 9 #18

Disappointed, but it couldn't go on forever... On the bright side, the HOUSE WILL HAVE TO RE-OPEN to Jack Valentino Nov 9 #16

After the House votes to release the files, is there any commitment that the Senate will pass it? Is there even a 24601 Nov 9 #21

Fuck no, and no. Volaris Nov 9 #31

No. And it won't happen. Lucy...... football. Autumn Monday #77

"consideration" berksdem Monday #80

Epic fail. Queso Delicioso Nov 9 #19

Agreed vercetti2021 Nov 9 #20

While I agree with that in principle.... AZ8theist Nov 9 #32

We have that now, apparently Queso Delicioso Monday #59

Still easier to gain influence within the Democratic party than to spin up a viable 3rd party 0rganism Monday #74

Bunch of centrist sellouts blue_jay Nov 9 #22

None of whom are up for election next year. Sneederbunk Nov 9 #26

Silver lining manicdem Nov 9 #24

But SNAP was Dump's hardball negotiation tactic AdamGG Monday #35

Exactly that's what people don't understand Jspur Monday #57

It also damages the argument re: who was to blame for the shutdown FBaggins Monday #58

If it's not SNAP it will be some other core thing that regular people need AdamGG Monday #88

It's over Polybius Nov 9 #25

ANYONE KNOW popsdenver Monday #72

Sure Polybius Monday #89

Democrats? ArizonaLib Nov 9 #29

Because they're traitors. Queso Delicioso Monday #60

So basically the deal is OrwellwasRight Nov 9 #30

No, read the details from AP story Deminpenn Monday #39

What are the details in that which you summarise as just "no" to all OrwellwasRight wrote? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Monday #45

I read the article. And summarized what I read. OrwellwasRight Monday #68

Cue the call for primaries... pecosbob Monday #33

These traitorous senators better have ... flying-skeleton Monday #36

So...starving people, gutting everything, all for nothing. I've been a dem my whole life, pounded pavement, phone airmid Monday #38

I am so sorry :( moonscape Monday #62

I'm sorry 😔 MustLoveBeagles Monday #65

One more positive thing is Deminpenn Monday #40

So now millions of people will be forced to go without healthcare because the premiums are too high. Lonestarblue Monday #41

Exactly ArizonaLib Monday #46

I wonder how close those 8 senators are to lobbyists and is there a correlation Mr. Sparkle Monday #44

Oh he definitely backed this. chernabogg Monday #47

Good points, Welcome to DU ! Mr. Sparkle Monday #69

Been here since 2004 at least. chernabogg Monday #70

Collaboration is now called "breakthrough". Miguelito Loveless Monday #56

I'm not too worried about his. Republicans will renege on any deal anyway. Ray Bruns Monday #61

After hear Mike Johnsons comment about he will NOT commit to bring ACA vote to the floor bluestarone Monday #66

"bipartisan breakthrough", I question that . republianmushroom Monday #67

Bipartisan my dick UT_democrat Monday #85

They own it weissmam Monday #86