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31. They "collaborate" using only their own figures. There are no BLS figures anymore.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:53 PM

Nov 5

If/when we start getting BLS figures again, they won't be trustworthy.

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ADP National Employment Report: Private Sector Employment Increased by 42,000 Jobs in October; Annual Pay was Up 4.5% [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 5 OP

I don't believe any "report".. Escape Nov 5 #1

ADP is a payroll processing firm, not government IronLionZion Nov 5 #2

Oh, I see..... Escape Nov 5 #27

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #13

According to this data, less than the population of Jacksonville, NC littlemissmartypants Nov 5 #3

No national 'report' linked to this administration is to be believed. Scalded Nun Nov 5 #4

ADP is not a government agency Miguelito Loveless Nov 5 #5

I personally believe that anything that flatters this adminsitration will be presented as coming from the government Scalded Nun Nov 5 #6

Automatic cynicism is blinding. It's a self-damaging strategy. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #15

In other words "I don't care about the truth, I will believe what I want as long Wiz Imp Nov 5 #32

Thanks. riversedge Nov 5 #7

Population is not growing."Replacement level" is probably around zero. mathematic Nov 5 #9

Our labor force growth was seeded years ago 0rganism Nov 5 #30

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #14

ADP is a private payroll-processing firm that only reports on its clients PSPS Nov 5 #8

tRUMP shooting the messenger wolfie001 Nov 5 #12

Not true. How may we help you understand "in collaboration with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab"? (in the OP) . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #16

So? It's still working with an incomplete data set. PSPS Nov 5 #23

The point is that your Reply title "only reports on its clients" is incorrect. They collaborate with Stanford. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #25

They "collaborate" using only their own figures. There are no BLS figures anymore. PSPS Nov 5 #31

I think Stanford would bring more figures or high quality estimates. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 6 #33

The increasingly large revisions to the BLS numbers for the months (and months) Igel Nov 5 #29

ADP is a player not a spectator. We are spectators. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #10

So? That means you know better than ADP and Stanford? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #17

I don't recall saying that. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #18

Correct. I may have misinterpreted your comment as being against ADP, in which case I apologize. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #19

The are not impartial, that is all. I was an auditor. Things happen. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #20

Thanks. Sorry about my misinterpretation. Not impartial? In what way and how so? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #21

Payroll processors and tax preparation by companies the size of ADP and Intuit profit twodogsbarking Nov 5 #24

Anemic wolfie001 Nov 5 #11

A for-profit company tells the private sector what it wants to hear Torchlight Nov 5 #22

Well, ADP added me a few months ago Polybius Nov 5 #28

I had no idea there were that many Spirit Halloween stores underpants Nov 5 #26