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Miguelito Loveless

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5. ADP is not a government agency

Reply to Scalded Nun (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 5, 2025, 09:33 AM

Nov 5

Two things:

1) The number of jobs created is below "replacement" level of what needs to be generated to just stay even.
2) These initial reports are subject to revision as more data comes in.

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ADP National Employment Report: Private Sector Employment Increased by 42,000 Jobs in October; Annual Pay was Up 4.5% [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 5 OP

I don't believe any "report".. Escape Nov 5 #1

ADP is a payroll processing firm, not government IronLionZion Nov 5 #2

Oh, I see..... Escape Nov 5 #27

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #13

According to this data, less than the population of Jacksonville, NC littlemissmartypants Nov 5 #3

No national 'report' linked to this administration is to be believed. Scalded Nun Nov 5 #4

ADP is not a government agency Miguelito Loveless Nov 5 #5

I personally believe that anything that flatters this adminsitration will be presented as coming from the government Scalded Nun Nov 5 #6

Automatic cynicism is blinding. It's a self-damaging strategy. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #15

In other words "I don't care about the truth, I will believe what I want as long Wiz Imp Nov 5 #32

Thanks. riversedge Nov 5 #7

Population is not growing."Replacement level" is probably around zero. mathematic Nov 5 #9

Our labor force growth was seeded years ago 0rganism Nov 5 #30

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #14

ADP is a private payroll-processing firm that only reports on its clients PSPS Nov 5 #8

tRUMP shooting the messenger wolfie001 Nov 5 #12

Not true. How may we help you understand "in collaboration with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab"? (in the OP) . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #16

So? It's still working with an incomplete data set. PSPS Nov 5 #23

The point is that your Reply title "only reports on its clients" is incorrect. They collaborate with Stanford. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #25

They "collaborate" using only their own figures. There are no BLS figures anymore. PSPS Nov 5 #31

I think Stanford would bring more figures or high quality estimates. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 6 #33

The increasingly large revisions to the BLS numbers for the months (and months) Igel Nov 5 #29

ADP is a player not a spectator. We are spectators. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #10

So? That means you know better than ADP and Stanford? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #17

I don't recall saying that. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #18

Correct. I may have misinterpreted your comment as being against ADP, in which case I apologize. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #19

The are not impartial, that is all. I was an auditor. Things happen. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #20

Thanks. Sorry about my misinterpretation. Not impartial? In what way and how so? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #21

Payroll processors and tax preparation by companies the size of ADP and Intuit profit twodogsbarking Nov 5 #24

Anemic wolfie001 Nov 5 #11

A for-profit company tells the private sector what it wants to hear Torchlight Nov 5 #22

Well, ADP added me a few months ago Polybius Nov 5 #28

I had no idea there were that many Spirit Halloween stores underpants Nov 5 #26