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8. There was another straw today - more links to a Chinese spy

Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:12 PM

Oct 17

Andrew's talks with a Chinese spy had been reported before, but apparently there were more today - this was published about 3 hours before the "drop the title" news:

Amazingly, even as I was typing that paragraph, a story dropped revealing that Andrew met the extremely senior Chinese Communist party official at the centre of the collapsed Beijing spy case at least three times. Remember, the duke is already under fire for unwittingly hiring an alleged spy as his representative in China. Is there anywhere he doesn’t get? He’s like the Forrest Gump of appalling decisions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/17/prince-andrew-meritocracy-royal-family

The Chinese spying is the main UK story this week: a court case of spying for China against 2 British people, one a parliamentary researcher, was dropped - with the prosecutors saying the current Labour government wouldn't given a proper statement that China is hostile (you need something like that for the law - though some say a jury can just make up their own mind about that), and Labour blaming the previous Tory government, when the spying happened, for not making a public statement of that at the time. And Labour is being accused of sucking up to the Chinese government by everyone else. (There's also planning permission needed for a new Chinese embassy, which would be the biggest in Europe, which has been postponed (amid claims the Chinese would tunnel underneath it and intercept communications links), and China is kicking up shit about that.

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I wonder if markodochartaigh Oct 17 #1

EXACTLY what I was thinking! nt Trueblue Texan Oct 17 #21

Ooooooooh. The plot thickens. calimary Oct 17 #32

Virginia Guiffre's book "Nobody's Girl" is coming out on the 21st n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 18 #45

Now he needs to spill the beans mercuryblues Oct 17 #2

Except... BaronChocula Oct 17 #4

It's getting to the point that it won't matter if he denies it. nt Trueblue Texan Oct 17 #22

I am sure a deal was reached and part of it is that Andrew and Fergie keep their mouths shut. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #38

I wonder if they'll yank his allowance? They SHOULD have already done it a long time ago. BigDemVoter Oct 17 #3

If he is going to have to actually work for a living, he'd better take some helicopter pilot refresher lessons. Aristus Oct 17 #9

They probably paid him to cooperate. :( Irish_Dem Oct 17 #26

The Epstein Event Horizon is near. usonian Oct 17 #5

Hopefully! The snowball starts rolling a long, snowy hill! electric_blue68 Oct 17 #24

Andrew has to be a huge national security risk for the UK. nycbos Oct 17 #6

Link to BBC nitpicked Oct 17 #7

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Thanks for the BC link! ShazzieB Oct 19 #47

There was another straw today - more links to a Chinese spy muriel_volestrangler Oct 17 #8

Virginia Giuffre's posthumous book is supposed to release Oct. 21 but the NYT published a book review yesterday BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #10

This is the precipitating event Lulu KC Oct 17 #12

Well li'l Mikey is going to stall as long as he can BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #14

Can't wait to read the book. llmart Oct 17 #17

after reading the excerpt markie Oct 17 #31

His humiliation probably won't extend to having to get a job Warpy Oct 17 #11

That certainly makes sense. calimary Oct 17 #36

That must have been an interesting "discussion". DavidDvorkin Oct 17 #13

I think it was of the "We can do this easy or we can do it hard" discussion. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #28

This was always going to happen ... even when Elizabeth was still alive FakeNoose Oct 17 #15

Scumbag raped children. About time the royals acknowledged that. nt SunSeeker Oct 17 #16

Are they acknowledging anything? JoseBalow Oct 17 #20

True, they have yet to explicity admit it happened. nt SunSeeker Oct 17 #23

Andrew is still denying everything. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #37

Yes, it's an old institution fujiyamasan Oct 18 #41

Welcome if overdue. Now will he fade into the background and stay there? Eugene Oct 17 #18

He better or he will lose other perks. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #35

Because he's innocent and totally not guilty of anything JoseBalow Oct 17 #19

He retains the title of Richard_GB Oct 17 #25

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Yep they won the vagina lottery and think they are special. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #34

no harm no foul. this is the logic that is essentially seen Tetrachloride Oct 17 #30

Perhaps this was part of the deal. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #33

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Guy's an arrogant perv. Joinfortmill Oct 17 #39

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