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Ocelot II

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75. Of course there's a story behind it but I don't think there was an actual transaction

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 01:12 AM

Sep 10

in which Trump paid Epstein $22.5 for a woman. For one thing, Trump never pays anybody for anything he could get for free; secondly, whatever relationship he and Epstein had relating to women would have been on the down-low, not a semi-public brag. And please don't insult me by suggesting that I'm trying to excuse Trump's behavior by characterizing it as a joke. I'm certainly not trying to excuse Trump, FFS! And this wasn't Trump's joke in the first place; it was made by one Joel Pashcow, wh had been a member of Mar-A-Lago. Here's more information:

The woman, whose name is also redacted in the files released by the House Oversight Committee, was a European socialite then in her 20s, according to two people familiar with the original photo. She had briefly dated both Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump around that time, according to court transcripts and a person close to Mr. Epstein. The birthday book entry appears to be a reference to the competition between the two men for the woman’s affections.

The nature of the woman’s relationship with Mr. Epstein is murky. The New York Times is not naming her because she may have been one of his victims.

A lawyer for the woman said she knew Mr. Epstein in “a professional capacity” when she was a student but severed ties with him in 1997. She did not know anything about the letter or its “derogatory content,” the lawyer added.

... A visual analysis by The Times found that the photo was taken at Mar-a-Lago after the resort opened as a club in 1996 and was landscaped with palm trees and other features. In the background of the photo, a thatched hut is visible in front of a line of palm trees. The area is bordered by a white picket fence and what appears to be the white band of a tennis net is visible in front of the hut. The features match what was captured at the club by the renowned tennis photographer Art Seitz in February 1997.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/epstein-trump-birthday-book.html

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House Democrats post 2nd Epstein birthday book page referencing Trump [View all] BumRushDaShow Sep 9 OP

Tell me again on how Trump was not part of (child) sex trafficking syndicate. Botany Sep 9 #1

A drunken Lot committed incest with his daughters AFTER Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed Ponietz Sep 9 #6

Oh yes! Sin now...pray later. littlemissmartypants Sep 9 #15

King David himself had a good and loyal General murdered so David could screw his wife Ponietz Sep 9 #16

To punish David and Bathsheba for their adultery, Mblaze Sep 9 #39

There was no punishment for the murder, though, because religion Ponietz Sep 9 #50

You're right Mblaze Sep 9 #51

FUCK THAT GOD, Y'KNOW? RVN VET71 Sep 9 #66

Yup. OldBaldy1701E Sep 9 #68

Yes, and ask this of any so called Christian Mtnmama Sep 9 #14

And a hypocritical so called Christians such as Johnson skip the teachings of Christ (if you believe in that) Botany Sep 9 #30

This is just for show, they don't believe in any of the words they are reciting, its all fake, they are the champions Escurumbele Sep 9 #40

And when you pray Mblaze Sep 9 #41

+1 dalton99a Sep 9 #44

Was this for the 12-year old or the 14-year old he allegedly "depreciated" nt Trueblue Texan Sep 9 #2

This is actually more disturbing than the drawing. It implies Trump and Epstein were in the business of Vinca Sep 9 #3

It means she has lost her virginity. The boys 'popped her cherry' and giggled travelingthrulife Sep 9 #26

That hadn't occurred to me. I figured it meant she had hit 18 and was now too old to participate. Vinca Sep 9 #35

No I think you have that backwards. Bluetus Sep 9 #43

If all these people do not die of slow-consuming genital leprosy . . RVN VET71 Sep 9 #67

The fact that they stated a precise number is damning Bluetus Sep 9 #42

What a poor-taste gag. John1956PA Sep 9 #4

Drip Drip OC375 Sep 9 #5

"or the girl!" UpInArms Sep 9 #7

the moral rot of the republicon party will cast them all into Hell BoRaGard Sep 9 #8

Right!!! Traildogbob Sep 9 #53

This story ain't going away any time soon Torchlight Sep 9 #9

It has been a mystery why Trump has been fighting so hard tokill the Epstein story Bluetus Sep 9 #45

It's not about Melania. This was in 2003, before he married Melania. Ocelot II Sep 9 #52

It is reported that Trump met Melania in 1998 and Bluetus Sep 9 #64

The WSJ has located, interviewed and quoted the woman, whose name was redacted. Ocelot II Sep 9 #65

Do you have any explanation for why Trump would pay $22,500 for this other woman Bluetus Sep 9 #71

It was clearly a joke. Why he came up with the particular number $22,500 isn't clear Ocelot II Sep 9 #73

These don't strike me as people who have much of a sense of humor Bluetus Sep 10 #74

Of course there's a story behind it but I don't think there was an actual transaction Ocelot II Sep 10 #75

If the Times reporting is correct, that would imply the story is something like Bluetus Sep 10 #76

..perhaps the story will hang itself... thomski64 Sep 9 #55

Maybe the story will accidentally jump out of a 10th floor window. Bluetus Sep 9 #72

Comer accusing Dems of "cherry picking" is beyond rich. rubbersole Sep 9 #10

Gomer is a laughable, bumbling fool for Trump. He's like Giuliani v2.0 Bengus81 Sep 9 #21

He is a dangerous dunce - in thrall to the Golf Cheat BoRaGard Sep 9 #54

This is literally nauseating. May they rot in hell. Scrivener7 Sep 9 #11

Depravity on steroids and beyond disgusting!!! dlk Sep 9 #12

What do good Christians think of this? Bumbles Sep 9 #13

They think women and children are the property of men, to do with as they choose. travelingthrulife Sep 9 #27

Joel Pashcow who wrote it needs to be publicised muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #17

More on Pashcow: muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #20

Was this page in Epstein's "birthday" book submitted by Jes Staley? FakeNoose Sep 9 #22

By Joel Pashcow, who also did the "fully depreciated" thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #25

I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing? BComplex Sep 9 #18

I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing? BComplex Sep 9 #19

See post #17 FakeNoose Sep 9 #24

Thanks, FakeNoose! BComplex Sep 9 #32

Dump is a human trafficker. Clouds Passing Sep 9 #23

There is no way on earth Donald Trump was not part of Epstein's business. travelingthrulife Sep 9 #28

There is no way that Putin, Russia, and Israel were not involved in the child sex trafficking operations too. Botany Sep 9 #31

I think this is the real reason it has been handled the way it has. harun Sep 9 #62

We are completely doomed as a nation Johnny2X2X Sep 9 #29

I remember all the lurid details ad nauseum re: Clinton and Lewinsky. llmart Sep 9 #47

And that was 2 consenting adults Johnny2X2X Sep 9 #61

Where I grew up these guys would have been buried in a strip mine; coal, bituminous. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #33

But this has been going on since the days before Ur - pre-history. erronis Sep 9 #63

MAGA IS FURIOUS! usonian Sep 9 #34

trump the leader of the GOP, showing his values. republianmushroom Sep 9 #36

The company he keeps / eom JustAnotherGen Sep 9 #37

"Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500," riversedge Sep 9 #38

OMG! Epstein is the gift that keeps on giving. So nice of Dump to demand transparency in the Epstein case in Martin68 Sep 9 #46

Whose face is blacked out? llmart Sep 9 #48

Presumably the sold child? still-prayin4rain Sep 11 #77

The image of the check implies that TRUMP SOLD ekelly Sep 9 #49

No, it's the other way around. If Trump signed the joke "check" he's the buyer. Ocelot II Sep 9 #57

It implies Trump paid money to Epstein IronLionZion Sep 9 #58

'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500 IronLionZion Sep 9 #56

The identity of the woman is known and it's not Melania. Ocelot II Sep 9 #59

I wonder if more America people recognize Epstein's picture than would recognize JD Vance's ? twodogsbarking Sep 9 #60

Since Maxwell made these birthday books KS Toronado Sep 9 #69

They could make it into a coloring book. Get an extra orange crayon, you will need it. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #70