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BumRushDaShow

(160,069 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:10 AM Sep 9

House Democrats post 2nd Epstein birthday book page referencing Trump

Source: Axios

10 hours ago


Democrats on the House Oversight Committee publicly posted on X another page from Jeffrey Epstein's birthday book that referred to President Trump.

The big picture: The post that features an image of Epstein holding a large check with the caption, "Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500," came hours after they posted a doodle in the document containing the president's name — which he strongly denies any association with.


Screenshot: House Oversight Democrats/X

  • House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) in a statement accompanying the release of Epstein documents that the convicted sex offender's estate turned over to the panel criticized Democrats for "cherry-picking documents and politicizing" the information.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/09/09/epstein-birthday-book-trump-reference-house-democrats
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    House Democrats post 2nd Epstein birthday book page referencing Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 9 OP
    Tell me again on how Trump was not part of (child) sex trafficking syndicate. Botany Sep 9 #1
    A drunken Lot committed incest with his daughters AFTER Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed Ponietz Sep 9 #6
    Oh yes! Sin now...pray later. littlemissmartypants Sep 9 #15
    King David himself had a good and loyal General murdered so David could screw his wife Ponietz Sep 9 #16
    To punish David and Bathsheba for their adultery, Mblaze Sep 9 #39
    There was no punishment for the murder, though, because religion Ponietz Sep 9 #50
    You're right Mblaze Sep 9 #51
    FUCK THAT GOD, Y'KNOW? RVN VET71 Sep 9 #66
    Yup. OldBaldy1701E Sep 9 #68
    Yes, and ask this of any so called Christian Mtnmama Sep 9 #14
    And a hypocritical so called Christians such as Johnson skip the teachings of Christ (if you believe in that) Botany Sep 9 #30
    This is just for show, they don't believe in any of the words they are reciting, its all fake, they are the champions Escurumbele Sep 9 #40
    And when you pray Mblaze Sep 9 #41
    +1 dalton99a Sep 9 #44
    Was this for the 12-year old or the 14-year old he allegedly "depreciated" nt Trueblue Texan Sep 9 #2
    This is actually more disturbing than the drawing. It implies Trump and Epstein were in the business of Vinca Sep 9 #3
    It means she has lost her virginity. The boys 'popped her cherry' and giggled travelingthrulife Sep 9 #26
    That hadn't occurred to me. I figured it meant she had hit 18 and was now too old to participate. Vinca Sep 9 #35
    No I think you have that backwards. Bluetus Sep 9 #43
    If all these people do not die of slow-consuming genital leprosy . . RVN VET71 Sep 9 #67
    The fact that they stated a precise number is damning Bluetus Sep 9 #42
    What a poor-taste gag. John1956PA Sep 9 #4
    Drip Drip OC375 Sep 9 #5
    "or the girl!" UpInArms Sep 9 #7
    the moral rot of the republicon party will cast them all into Hell BoRaGard Sep 9 #8
    Right!!! Traildogbob Sep 9 #53
    This story ain't going away any time soon Torchlight Sep 9 #9
    It has been a mystery why Trump has been fighting so hard tokill the Epstein story Bluetus Sep 9 #45
    It's not about Melania. This was in 2003, before he married Melania. Ocelot II Sep 9 #52
    It is reported that Trump met Melania in 1998 and Bluetus Sep 9 #64
    The WSJ has located, interviewed and quoted the woman, whose name was redacted. Ocelot II Sep 9 #65
    Do you have any explanation for why Trump would pay $22,500 for this other woman Bluetus Sep 9 #71
    It was clearly a joke. Why he came up with the particular number $22,500 isn't clear Ocelot II Sep 9 #73
    These don't strike me as people who have much of a sense of humor Bluetus Wednesday #74
    Of course there's a story behind it but I don't think there was an actual transaction Ocelot II Wednesday #75
    If the Times reporting is correct, that would imply the story is something like Bluetus Wednesday #76
    ..perhaps the story will hang itself... thomski64 Sep 9 #55
    Maybe the story will accidentally jump out of a 10th floor window. Bluetus Sep 9 #72
    Comer accusing Dems of "cherry picking" is beyond rich. rubbersole Sep 9 #10
    Gomer is a laughable, bumbling fool for Trump. He's like Giuliani v2.0 Bengus81 Sep 9 #21
    He is a dangerous dunce - in thrall to the Golf Cheat BoRaGard Sep 9 #54
    This is literally nauseating. May they rot in hell. Scrivener7 Sep 9 #11
    Depravity on steroids and beyond disgusting!!! dlk Sep 9 #12
    What do good Christians think of this? Bumbles Sep 9 #13
    They think women and children are the property of men, to do with as they choose. travelingthrulife Sep 9 #27
    Joel Pashcow who wrote it needs to be publicised muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #17
    More on Pashcow: muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #20
    Was this page in Epstein's "birthday" book submitted by Jes Staley? FakeNoose Sep 9 #22
    By Joel Pashcow, who also did the "fully depreciated" thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #25
    I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing? BComplex Sep 9 #18
    I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing? BComplex Sep 9 #19
    See post #17 FakeNoose Sep 9 #24
    Thanks, FakeNoose! BComplex Sep 9 #32
    Dump is a human trafficker. Clouds Passing Sep 9 #23
    There is no way on earth Donald Trump was not part of Epstein's business. travelingthrulife Sep 9 #28
    There is no way that Putin, Russia, and Israel were not involved in the child sex trafficking operations too. Botany Sep 9 #31
    I think this is the real reason it has been handled the way it has. harun Sep 9 #62
    We are completely doomed as a nation Johnny2X2X Sep 9 #29
    I remember all the lurid details ad nauseum re: Clinton and Lewinsky. llmart Sep 9 #47
    And that was 2 consenting adults Johnny2X2X Sep 9 #61
    Where I grew up these guys would have been buried in a strip mine; coal, bituminous. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #33
    But this has been going on since the days before Ur - pre-history. erronis Sep 9 #63
    MAGA IS FURIOUS! usonian Sep 9 #34
    trump the leader of the GOP, showing his values. republianmushroom Sep 9 #36
    The company he keeps / eom JustAnotherGen Sep 9 #37
    "Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500," riversedge Sep 9 #38
    OMG! Epstein is the gift that keeps on giving. So nice of Dump to demand transparency in the Epstein case in Martin68 Sep 9 #46
    Whose face is blacked out? llmart Sep 9 #48
    Presumably the sold child? still-prayin4rain Thursday #77
    The image of the check implies that TRUMP SOLD ekelly Sep 9 #49
    No, it's the other way around. If Trump signed the joke "check" he's the buyer. Ocelot II Sep 9 #57
    It implies Trump paid money to Epstein IronLionZion Sep 9 #58
    'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500 IronLionZion Sep 9 #56
    The identity of the woman is known and it's not Melania. Ocelot II Sep 9 #59
    I wonder if more America people recognize Epstein's picture than would recognize JD Vance's ? twodogsbarking Sep 9 #60
    Since Maxwell made these birthday books KS Toronado Sep 9 #69
    They could make it into a coloring book. Get an extra orange crayon, you will need it. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #70

    Botany

    (75,300 posts)
    1. Tell me again on how Trump was not part of (child) sex trafficking syndicate.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:33 AM
    Sep 9

    ATTN Speaker Johnson are you going to keep giving Krasnov cover? Where in your big
    book of Bible are there passages about sex trafficking, blackmail, and money laundering
    being O.K.?

    Ponietz

    (4,026 posts)
    6. A drunken Lot committed incest with his daughters AFTER Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:55 AM
    Sep 9

    For 3,000 years, it’s been okay since God loves and forgives them. They are the Chosen people (Old and New Testament adherents).
    No end to pernicious religiosity in sight.

    Ponietz

    (4,026 posts)
    16. King David himself had a good and loyal General murdered so David could screw his wife
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:48 AM
    Sep 9

    Then, he wrote Psalms. Religion and entitlement are indistinguishable.

    Mblaze

    (743 posts)
    51. You're right
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:42 PM
    Sep 9

    But to kill the innocent child. 🤷‍♂️ That's the God of the "pro-lifers".

    It reminds me that later, when David did a census of his people in order to tax them for his continuous wars, God got angry and to punish David, he killed 70,000 of David's (and we would assume, "God's chosen" ) people to punish David.

    Weird.

    RVN VET71

    (3,008 posts)
    66. FUCK THAT GOD, Y'KNOW?
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:21 PM
    Sep 9

    Cold hearted son of a bitch he was. Much like Trump, his truest of true sons. He killed all of the kids in Sodom. And all of the kids in Gemorrah. Because he didn't like the way some of their parents were behaving. All the boys, all the girls.

    Like I said, a real bastard. Oh, and he also killed his own son, the Only Begotten One, through the agency of the Roman Army, but nevertheless his Almighty hand was on the wheel. According to the Buybull, at any rate.

    Mtnmama

    (96 posts)
    14. Yes, and ask this of any so called Christian
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:34 AM
    Sep 9

    Supporting trump. Their hypocrisy is sickening.

    Botany

    (75,300 posts)
    30. And a hypocritical so called Christians such as Johnson skip the teachings of Christ (if you believe in that)
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:10 AM
    Sep 9

    Such as not making a public showing of prayer. Something like do it in a room and with
    door closed do not make a show of it. He is a complete fake.





    And now he is giving cover to a child rapist and sex trafficker in Trump.

    Escurumbele

    (3,896 posts)
    40. This is just for show, they don't believe in any of the words they are reciting, its all fake, they are the champions
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:29 PM
    Sep 9

    of fake, its almost as if AI had conceived them and given birth to them, they have no soul of their own, only respond to orders and act them out.

    It is so difficult to understand how people who go to great universities, and are supposed to have critical thinking, can sit at a cabinet meeting to denigrate themselves by showing their submissiveness to a convicted felon, lying about how good he is, what a leader he is, when they know they guy is nothing but an awful buffoon.

    And that prayer is for them hoping that it will be on the news. Some of them most probably don't even know the words of the prayers.

    Mblaze

    (743 posts)
    41. And when you pray
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:32 PM
    Sep 9

    do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. - Jesus

    American Evangelicals have no faith in God. They use belief in God as a means of division.

    Vinca

    (52,680 posts)
    3. This is actually more disturbing than the drawing. It implies Trump and Epstein were in the business of
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:38 AM
    Sep 9

    buying and selling women. It makes learning about the huge transfers of money Epstein made more important. Were they buying young girls from foreign countries for their operation? Depreciation is an interesting term to use. Does that mean the young woman hit the magic age when she was not desirable to the pedophile ring anymore?

    travelingthrulife

    (3,241 posts)
    26. It means she has lost her virginity. The boys 'popped her cherry' and giggled
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:48 AM
    Sep 9

    about it afterwards.

    This to me says there was a deal made, he paid 22,000+ for a girl who still had her virginity.

    We know who brokered the deal.

    Vinca

    (52,680 posts)
    35. That hadn't occurred to me. I figured it meant she had hit 18 and was now too old to participate.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:38 AM
    Sep 9

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    43. No I think you have that backwards.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:38 PM
    Sep 9

    They are boasting that they sold a DEPRECIATED asset to Trump. I believe that "depreciated" in this case means a woman who had already provides a lot of service for Epstein/Maxwell clients. That's the boast -- that they considered the woman a "depreciated asset", yet they got Trump to pay top dollar.

    Who is this woman? The note evidently identifies a specific woman. Is that Melania?

    RVN VET71

    (3,008 posts)
    67. If all these people do not die of slow-consuming genital leprosy . .
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:30 PM
    Sep 9

    . . .there cannot possibly be a god of justice. Which, of course, there isn't.

    But it would be nice to be able to say of Epstein and his putrescent, pus-dripping rich cronies (including "President" Trump - that his death was the easiest and least painful of all of them.

    While I'm thinking about it: The lists of Mar-a- Logo creeps (the membership lists, that is) should be made public, along with their addresses -- that the public might subject them to a MAGA-Trump-like retribution.

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    42. The fact that they stated a precise number is damning
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:35 PM
    Sep 9

    Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

    And for people in that financial strata, $22,500 is probably actually a very plausible number.

    Note that there is a redaction, which apparently indicates a very specific victim, not just a concept. We need to be asking what the word "sell" means in this case. What was the arrangement? I doubt Trump would have paid $22,500 just to have sex with this girl one time.

    And what is meant by "fully depreciated"? That implies that Epstein had used this victim many times before "selling" her to Trump for his exclusive use.

    What is the timing of this note? Could the note be talking about Melania? There is good reason to believe that Epstein and Maxwell found her in Slovenia, ran her through their "modeling agency", pimped her out extensively, and eventually introduced her to Trump. Did Trump "buy" his wife for $22,500 or are we talking about yet another woman?

    John1956PA

    (4,457 posts)
    4. What a poor-taste gag.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:38 AM
    Sep 9

    I am thinking this is from about the year 2000. I think that the printing on the memo is by the fellow in the center. I do not know who he is. The unnamed female who is the focus of the "sale" seems to be the female in the black dress.

    This type of boys-club so-called "humor" is wretched.

    OC375

    (260 posts)
    5. Drip Drip
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:43 AM
    Sep 9

    Wonder who will be next, now that we’re doing reveals one at a time? It’s a good plan as each person in Epstein’s orbit should be getting some exclusivity and attention when being outed. No shade for anyone. It’s a good start!

    Traildogbob

    (11,815 posts)
    53. Right!!!
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:45 PM
    Sep 9

    I am not religious, but damn the recent additions to Hell and this GQP band of brothers headed there are giving me fear that I need to make damn sure I get to the opposite place.

    Torchlight

    (5,686 posts)
    9. This story ain't going away any time soon
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:10 AM
    Sep 9

    His courtiers will call it a stunning necklace while the world sees nothing more than a dead albatross around his neck.

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    45. It has been a mystery why Trump has been fighting so hard tokill the Epstein story
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:46 PM
    Sep 9

    Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

    We know Trump isn't embarrassed to have stories about his sexual prowess, even with underage girls. We know that he was engaged in massive money laundering with Russian oligarchs, and that hasn't brought him down.

    So what is it that he is so afraid of? I think it is something very close to his ego.

    Imagine if this note is actually referring to Melania. That would mean this big, powerful guy had to buy a sex slave for a wife. And not just a prostitute (willing or otherwise,) but a DEPRECIATED one -- meaning that his wife would have had sex with dozens or hundreds of Espetein's clients before being "sold off" to Trump as "depreciated property." Now THAT is the kind of thing Trump would fight really hard to not have exposed. I mean normal people don't have to pay people to be their spouses.

    We ought to be immediately demanding to know who that redacted person is. If it is truly an innocent victim, then of course her identity should be protected. But if is it, in fact, Melania Trump, this must come out.

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    52. It's not about Melania. This was in 2003, before he married Melania.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:44 PM
    Sep 9

    Anyhow, the identity of the woman is known and it's not her.

    The Wall Street Journal reported that the woman was someone whom Epstein and the now two-time US president – whose middle initial is J – “socialized with” in the 1990s. The woman’s lawyer told the newspaper that she cut ties with Epstein around 1997 and had no romantic relationship with either Epstein or Trump, does not know Pashcow, and had no knowledge of the letter, which she called a “disgusting and deeply disturbing hoax”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/09/trump-epstein-photo-check-woman

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    64. It is reported that Trump met Melania in 1998 and
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:11 PM
    Sep 9

    that the connection came through Epstein. By 2000, Trump was actively getting Melania "modeling" jobs, so it is certainly plausible that they were screwing around by then - a virtual certainty given what we know about Trump. He never does anything to help anybody unless there is something in it for him.

    So, with respect, I challenge that Guardian reporting. The timeline fits that Epstein fake $22,500 check picture perfectly. Of course, it could be any of dozens of other women, but the timeline certainly does not exclude Melania and the story line fits perfectly.

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    65. The WSJ has located, interviewed and quoted the woman, whose name was redacted.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:19 PM
    Sep 9

    In light of that reporting it's clearly not Melania and there's no reason to assume it was. The Guardian was simply reporting what the WSJ investigated.

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    71. Do you have any explanation for why Trump would pay $22,500 for this other woman
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:05 PM
    Sep 9

    and what he received for his money, that he wasn't already getting?

    Trump doesn't give anything away without something in return.

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    73. It was clearly a joke. Why he came up with the particular number $22,500 isn't clear
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:09 PM
    Sep 9

    but I don't think there was ever any actual transaction in this case - just an extremely tasteless and demeaning inside joke at the expense of the named woman.

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    74. These don't strike me as people who have much of a sense of humor
    Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:42 AM
    Wednesday

    I am a bit weary of the standard Trump defense "Oh, he really didn't mean that. He was just kidding." I am surprised to hear that from someone here. Trump is a servant to his projection. Even if these people were not being literal, this was not some random joke. 100% certain there is a real story behind that fake $22,500 check, and we would be well served to understand where that came from.

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    75. Of course there's a story behind it but I don't think there was an actual transaction
    Wed Sep 10, 2025, 01:12 AM
    Wednesday

    in which Trump paid Epstein $22.5 for a woman. For one thing, Trump never pays anybody for anything he could get for free; secondly, whatever relationship he and Epstein had relating to women would have been on the down-low, not a semi-public brag. And please don't insult me by suggesting that I'm trying to excuse Trump's behavior by characterizing it as a joke. I'm certainly not trying to excuse Trump, FFS! And this wasn't Trump's joke in the first place; it was made by one Joel Pashcow, wh had been a member of Mar-A-Lago. Here's more information:

    The woman, whose name is also redacted in the files released by the House Oversight Committee, was a European socialite then in her 20s, according to two people familiar with the original photo. She had briefly dated both Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump around that time, according to court transcripts and a person close to Mr. Epstein. The birthday book entry appears to be a reference to the competition between the two men for the woman’s affections.

    The nature of the woman’s relationship with Mr. Epstein is murky. The New York Times is not naming her because she may have been one of his victims.

    A lawyer for the woman said she knew Mr. Epstein in “a professional capacity” when she was a student but severed ties with him in 1997. She did not know anything about the letter or its “derogatory content,” the lawyer added.

    ... A visual analysis by The Times found that the photo was taken at Mar-a-Lago after the resort opened as a club in 1996 and was landscaped with palm trees and other features. In the background of the photo, a thatched hut is visible in front of a line of palm trees. The area is bordered by a white picket fence and what appears to be the white band of a tennis net is visible in front of the hut. The features match what was captured at the club by the renowned tennis photographer Art Seitz in February 1997.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/epstein-trump-birthday-book.html

    Bluetus

    (1,539 posts)
    76. If the Times reporting is correct, that would imply the story is something like
    Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:04 AM
    Wednesday

    Epstein and friends were having a lot of sex with this woman -- enough that Epstein referred to her as "depreciated". At some point, Trump got in the middle and messed up her relationship with Epstein, evidently spending something like $22,500 in the process. Perhaps he paid for an apartment or car or something.

    True, Trump never pays for anything without getting something in return. In this case, maybe what he got was some vengeance or bragging rights against Epstein.

    Scrivener7

    (57,137 posts)
    11. This is literally nauseating. May they rot in hell.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:14 AM
    Sep 9

    I despair of that monster ever getting what is due him.

    dlk

    (12,934 posts)
    12. Depravity on steroids and beyond disgusting!!!
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:21 AM
    Sep 9

    No doubt they had a good laugh about it.

    When there’s no accountability, the crimes only increase in frequency and in intensity.

    Thank you GOP. You’ve shown the world what your “family values” truly are

    travelingthrulife

    (3,241 posts)
    27. They think women and children are the property of men, to do with as they choose.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:51 AM
    Sep 9

    They pretend they are against trafficking.

    muriel_volestrangler

    (104,691 posts)
    17. Joel Pashcow who wrote it needs to be publicised
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:00 AM
    Sep 9
    Epstein birthday book includes joke about selling 'fully depreciated' woman to Trump for $22,500

    A joke about disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein “selling” a woman to Donald Trump is included in documents released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee Monday.

    The OversightDems X account shared an image of Epstein holding a novelty check alongside two men and a woman, with the caption: “Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a ‘fully depreciated’ woman to Donald Trump for $22,500.”

    The oversized check was signed “DJTRUMP,” although it does not resemble Trump’s actual signature.

    Beneath it, a handwritten note which The New York Times said appears to be written by former New York real estate executive Joel Pashcow, referred to Epstein’s “early talents with money and women” and jokes that the photo shows the disgraced financier selling a “fully depreciated” woman to Trump.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-epstein-birthday-book-photo-b2822978.html


    Handwriting reads:

    'Jeffrey showing early talents with money + women! Sells "fully depreciated" (name redacted) to Donald Trump for $22,500. Showed early "people skills" for even though I handled the deal I didn't get any of the money or the girl!'

    So that was the atmosphere around Epstein and Trump - "girls" being passed between them.

    muriel_volestrangler

    (104,691 posts)
    20. More on Pashcow:
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:21 AM
    Sep 9
    Consider the scope of the rot in the context of reporting from yesterday’s NYT (gift link) that explores Epstein’s ties to JPMorgan, the world’s largest bank. Its highly influential CEO, Jamie Dimon, had an heir apparent during Epstein’s heyday, a man named Jes Staley.

    Staley ignored and excused multiple red flags that indicated Epstein was trafficking teenagers. He also apparently fucked a couple of kids himself at Epstein’s island and then sent smirking emails about the experience to Epstein. The kid-diddling pervert Staley was CEO of JP Morgan’s investment bank and later served as CEO of Barclays, thanks in part to Epstein. As Staley wrote to his pedophile pal, “I owe you much.”

    Or consider this birthday book submission from longtime Mar-a-lago member Joel Pashcow, managing member of the real estate and securities investment firm Nassau Capital LLC and past chairman of Atlantic Realty Trust and RPT Realty:



    That repulsive cartoon isn’t out of place in the birthday book. There are 200+ pages of similar leering depravity, and the convicted child sex trafficker who solicited the submissions and the wealthy elites who wrote and/or drew grotesque anecdotes celebrating Epstein’s degeneracy felt perfectly comfortable putting this out there for people in their circle to see and snicker over.

    https://balloon-juice.com/2025/09/09/burn-it-down-2/

    Staley was banned by the Financial Conduct Authority in the UK from banking:

    High flyer to pariah: the saga of Epstein-linked banker Jes Staley

    Staley was soon holidaying on Epstein’s private island, flying on his private plane, and gaining access to an impressive portfolio of ministers, entrepreneurs and royalty. The relationship ended up bolstering Staley’s profile on Wall Street and even connecting his daughter to senior figures at Ivy League universities.
    ...
    But a subsequent FCA investigation, involving a cache of 1,200 emails from JP Morgan, convinced the regulator it had been misled. It alleged that the pair were indeed close friends and stayed in touch via Staley’s daughter for years after he joined Barclays.
    ...
    But more cryptic messages between the two stirred the most controversy, including an exchange about Disney princesses in July 2010. “That was fun. Say hi to Snow White,” Staley wrote. “What character would you like next?” Epstein asked, to which Staley replied: “Beauty and the Beast.” “Well one side is available,” Epstein responded. Staley told the court he was not able to explain the exchange.

    Months earlier, in September 2009, Epstein emailed a woman to say: “Jes staley is staying at the berkeley hotel in London tonight.” Staley said he could not recall the reason behind the message.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jun/26/high-flyer-to-pariah-saga-jeffrey-epstein-banker-jes-staley

    FakeNoose

    (38,621 posts)
    22. Was this page in Epstein's "birthday" book submitted by Jes Staley?
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:39 AM
    Sep 9

    I can't see a signature on this cartoon.

    However yesterday's NYT story made it clear that Staley was a regular visitor to Epstein's island and also to his Arizona ranch.

    BComplex

    (9,550 posts)
    18. I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing?
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:19 AM
    Sep 9

    Can someone please tell me what the note says?

    BComplex

    (9,550 posts)
    19. I can't tell what the note says. Is it just my computer that isn't picking up the writing?
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:19 AM
    Sep 9

    Can someone please tell me what the note says?

    Botany

    (75,300 posts)
    31. There is no way that Putin, Russia, and Israel were not involved in the child sex trafficking operations too.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:24 AM
    Sep 9

    Putin and Russia were part of providing young teens for the sexual abuse and all 3 used it
    to get kompromat on Trump along with other powerful men too. Trump getting into the White
    House in 2016 was part of an ongoing scheme that was part of the biggest criminal operation
    in American history that had been going on for years. BTW I think that blackmail was a major
    money earner for Epstein/Maxwell too and Trump was getting a piece of that action too.

    harun

    (11,378 posts)
    62. I think this is the real reason it has been handled the way it has.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:38 PM
    Sep 9

    Intel services were in on it and using it as a blackmail and intel gathering scheme.

    Johnny2X2X

    (23,386 posts)
    29. We are completely doomed as a nation
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:00 AM
    Sep 9

    How am I sure of that? If this were anyone else, they'd literally be breaking into regularly scheduled programming to announce these grotesque findings. It would be a vigil for Biden or Obama to resign if 1/10th of this came out about them and Epstein.

    Epstein and Trump bought and sold girls from each other.

    llmart

    (16,813 posts)
    47. I remember all the lurid details ad nauseum re: Clinton and Lewinsky.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:25 PM
    Sep 9

    The media, both newspapers and news programs, told us every single detail 24/7.

    Johnny2X2X

    (23,386 posts)
    61. And that was 2 consenting adults
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:55 PM
    Sep 9

    This is a man in his 60s and 70s raping preteen and teen girls. And basically bragging about it in a birthday wish to his fellow child rapist.

    twodogsbarking

    (15,729 posts)
    33. Where I grew up these guys would have been buried in a strip mine; coal, bituminous.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
    Sep 9

    The search for them would last ten seconds at best.

    erronis

    (21,261 posts)
    63. But this has been going on since the days before Ur - pre-history.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:01 PM
    Sep 9

    And the rich/powerful get away with it. The poor pay with their lives, their wives, their daughters and sons.

    Every few decades or longer, in every society, there is an explosion and a violent ousting of the rich rulers. And soon thereafter, another group takes over - sometimes better, sometimes worse. But eventually, always for the worse for the normal people.

    republianmushroom

    (21,364 posts)
    36. trump the leader of the GOP, showing his values.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:45 AM
    Sep 9

    Damn, my uncut tom cat seems to have more moral values. But then we are speaking of GOP moral values.

    riversedge

    (77,749 posts)
    38. "Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500,"
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:23 PM
    Sep 9

    Probably not far from the truth--gotta pay the price for fun!



    https://www.axios.com/2025/09/09/epstein-birthday-book-trump-reference-house-democrats
    ...............
    The big picture: The post that features an image of Epstein holding a large check with the caption, "Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500," came hours after they posted a doodle in the document containing the president's name — which he strongly denies any association with.

    Martin68

    (26,458 posts)
    46. OMG! Epstein is the gift that keeps on giving. So nice of Dump to demand transparency in the Epstein case in
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:59 PM
    Sep 9

    an effort to embarrass Democrats.

    ekelly

    (428 posts)
    49. The image of the check implies that TRUMP SOLD
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:28 PM
    Sep 9

    Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

    the girl to Epstein, NOT that Epstein sold the girl. The Pay to line says Jeffrey Epstein. The signature line says D TRUMP.

    ***** Senior Brain Fart Moment…….sorry folks! *****

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    57. No, it's the other way around. If Trump signed the joke "check" he's the buyer.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:21 PM
    Sep 9

    Epstein, the payee, is the seller whom Trump is paying for the woman in the "joke." If you sign a check you're the one who's paying the money and getting the merchandise. The person on the pay-to line is the person who's getting the money in exchange for the merchandise.

    IronLionZion

    (49,894 posts)
    58. It implies Trump paid money to Epstein
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:27 PM
    Sep 9

    makes you wonder what he got in return and how sketchy this all is.

    IronLionZion

    (49,894 posts)
    56. 'fully depreciated' woman to Donald Trump for $22,500
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:18 PM
    Sep 9

    WTF does that mean?

    Was it Melania? She might be super pissed at this type of "locker room talk" that only happens in Trump's locker rooms when he's talking.

    Ocelot II

    (127,171 posts)
    59. The identity of the woman is known and it's not Melania.
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:28 PM
    Sep 9

    The Wall Street Journal reported that the woman was someone whom Epstein and the now two-time US president – whose middle initial is J – “socialized with” in the 1990s. The woman’s lawyer told the newspaper that she cut ties with Epstein around 1997 and had no romantic relationship with either Epstein or Trump, does not know Pashcow, and had no knowledge of the letter, which she called a “disgusting and deeply disturbing hoax”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/09/trump-epstein-photo-check-woman

    twodogsbarking

    (15,729 posts)
    60. I wonder if more America people recognize Epstein's picture than would recognize JD Vance's ?
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:04 PM
    Sep 9

    A posthumous celebrity. Infamous.

    KS Toronado

    (21,256 posts)
    69. Since Maxwell made these birthday books
    Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:07 PM
    Sep 9

    is that her hand writing claiming she didn't get any of the money or the girl?

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