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17. That only applies if he is even cognizent enough to do so

Sun Aug 31, 2025, 02:47 PM

Aug 31

Remember this?

H.Res.21 - Calling on Vice President Michael R. Pence to convene and mobilize the principal officers of the executive departments of the Cabinet to activate section 4 of the 25th Amendment to declare President Donald J. Trump incapable of executing the duties of his office and to immediately exercise powers as acting President.

And Pence declined - Letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi on 25th Amendment Resolution

But the Amendment says this -

25th Amendment

(snip)

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

The OPTION mentions the "Principal Officers" and during the circumstances that you are assuming would only be the case, the notification has almost always been transmitted BY the President (often for a medical procedure involving anesthesia, etc) noting the "temporary transfer of power" to the VP. Otherwise, there is apparently an opportunity (loophole - which was the point of that Resolution in 2021) for the VP and Principal Officers to countermand.

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Maxine Waters Says Trump's Actions Warrant 25th Amendment Review [View all] BumRushDaShow Aug 31 OP

Trump could be foaming at the mouth and speaking no words with real meaning and Republicans would do nothing. Lonestarblue Aug 31 #1

I agree, but there's no one to review it. The people around him are equally crazy. Vinca Aug 31 #2

25....47.. twodogsbarking Aug 31 #3

It will only happen if JD Vance calls the meeting with cabinet members FakeNoose Aug 31 #4

Vance wants the presidency, but MAGA would absolutely hate his guts Martin Eden Aug 31 #7

Democrats need to keep that issue out there. Pritzker skirted the idea last week. /nt bucolic_frolic Aug 31 #5

YES INDEED! Let people hear it, see it, loud and clear. THIS IS NOT NORMAL! CTyankee Aug 31 #8

It needs to be a continuing chorus, Bayard Aug 31 #11

JV Dance doesn't have the cult adoration Oeditpus Rex Sep 1 #33

Implementation of the 25th should be out there, 24/7. Paladin Aug 31 #6

Lock him up, and down and all around, like the hokey pokey but in the pokey. twodogsbarking Aug 31 #9

Pedofelon one is a danger to the world now... Justice matters. Aug 31 #10

Jesus, is this for real? thought crime Aug 31 #13

Yep. It looks like the pedofelon kingpin is announcing that if he goes down sick... Justice matters. Aug 31 #14

It would be easier to remove him through impeachment -- and that's not going to happen either. onenote Aug 31 #12

That depends on whether the kooky cabinet BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #15

It really doesn't FBaggins Aug 31 #16

That only applies if he is even cognizent enough to do so BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #17

You think he wouldn't immediately say that he was fine? FBaggins Aug 31 #18

That's the issue, isn't it BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #20

You keep highlighting portions of the resolution as though they contradict what I said FBaggins Aug 31 #21

"She was just hoping to put some republicans on the record defending him" BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #23

There is no "alternate procedural mechanism" for 25A FBaggins Aug 31 #25

"There is no "alternate procedural mechanism" for 25A" BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #27

of course she is right. Maxine knows shit and has seen it all. Evolve Dammit Aug 31 #19

They do. But the 25th is useless. Two things we KNOW.. Grins Aug 31 #22

Nevertheless, I do like that people are already at least talking about it. calimary Aug 31 #24

A lot of the Constitution is without teeth. Aussie105 Sep 1 #30

I have posted many times about our system of government relying heavily on "the honor system" BumRushDaShow Sep 1 #31

The 25th was not written to prevent a crazy person from being president onenote Sep 1 #32

Be careful what you wish for. Vance is far worse because of Thiel. n/t valleyrogue Aug 31 #26

But he's also hated by the MAGats BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #28

'Makings of a dictator': Rep. Maxine Waters blasts Trump over attempted ouster of Fed Governor - The Weeknight - MSNBC Rhiannon12866 Aug 31 #29

This isthe message Oeditpus Rex Sep 1 #34