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lostincalifornia

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35. Stop with the BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME garbage. Every DEMCORATIC PRESIDENT PUSHED FOR A
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 02:33 AM
Aug 18

two-state solution, and that includes VP Harris, who campaigned on it, had four point plan which included ceasefire, return of hostages, rebuilding Gaza, and to the negotiating table for a two-state solution.

There was no question where trump stood verses VP Harris.

as for your convenient 70 year time frame, during most of that time the Arab neighbors, along with the PLO refused the UN Partition Resolution based on the British mandate, continuously tried to destroy Israel through multiple wars, and declared through the Khartoum Resolution there would be "No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, and No recognition of Israel.

No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, No recognition of Israel. "The Three Noes", Khartoum Resolution, 1967.

Jimmy Carter started a comprehensive peace process, and that was continued by Bill Clinton using the Oslo accords as the basis, and Clinton had a framework in place when he was leaving office, leaving a continuation of that framework for the next administration to continue. Unfortunately, the republicans won, with the help of Nader and those who pushed the LIE that there was no difference between republicans and Democrats.

The bush administration completely ignored the Clinton Administration's middle east peace progress, trashed canned the Graham/Hart report on al qaeda, and ignored the presidential daily briefings. 9/11 happened, and the entire middle east peace process was put on ICE.

While President Obama tried to move negotiations back toward a framework for a two-state solution, very little happened in that regard, however, he did accomplish a lot in other areas, including a negotiated nuclear agreement with Iran, safeguards to minimize another financial implosion, ACA, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the raid that got rid of bin Laden, opened Cuban relations, advanced LGBT rights, Lilly Ledbetter act, etc.

Unfortunately, with the help of some of the same actors in 2000, we lost in 2016, the Supreme Court, and almost everything the Obama Administration had accomplished was reversed when trump won in 2016.

and while Democrats regained control in 2020, the damage done by trump was so massive that four years was not enough to reverse it. When Saudi Arabia along with other Arab countries offered a substantive peace plan, that was a major factor which motivated Hamas to do October 7, derail any peace process with Israel, and impacted the 2024 election because of the blind ignorance of some who refused to vote for VP Harris.

So yes, those who refused to vote for VP Harris in 2024 ARE COMPLICIT, not only with what is happening here in the U.S., but also Gaza.

What happened in 2016 wasn't enough for them, they needed to seal it with 2024.



















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Burying an Entire People Would Be More Like a Mass Grave, No? DrFunkenstein Aug 14 #1
Lebensraum IronLionZion Aug 14 #2
Indeed Miguelito Loveless Aug 14 #3
Israel has been establishing facts on the ground in the West Bank for generations Martin Eden Aug 14 #4
The international community at the UN moniss Aug 14 #7
I knew the UN deems the settlements illegal, but didn't realize military action was being called for Martin Eden Aug 14 #8
There has long been a contingent in the UN moniss Aug 14 #9
No. Their goal since 1948 was to prevent a Palestinian state and expel all Palestinians. Lonestarblue Aug 14 #10
The situation over there, Haggard Celine Aug 15 #26
Yes, but didn't they illegally march in to the West Bank and TAKE slightlv Aug 14 #13
Cycle of Violence Martin Eden Aug 14 #21
Netanyahu is a lawless as trump or Putin Bayard Aug 14 #5
Read about his and Mossad's entanglement with slightlv Aug 14 #14
Do you have sources? Bayard Aug 15 #22
Whitney Web wrote a two volume book on Epstein womanofthehills Aug 15 #24
Since trump took the throne, slightlv Aug 15 #31
The only thing I remember, Bayard, is slightlv Aug 15 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 15 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 14 #6
Once they finish off the people in Gaza Bettie Aug 14 #11
I agree, except I'd make it more explicit... slightlv Aug 14 #15
Yeah, I agree with everything you said Bettie Aug 14 #16
As trump has shown us, slightlv Aug 14 #20
And after that they want parts of the countries bordering them womanofthehills Aug 15 #25
Yep, I was going to add that, but Bettie Aug 15 #28
You want to talk about "complicity". Those that not only refused to endorse VP Harris, but refused to vote for her. lostincalifornia Aug 14 #12
Indeed. Those individuals can never be trusted again. They do not deserve to hold office. Oopsie Daisy Aug 15 #27
The notion that this is only happening iemanja Aug 16 #32
Stop with the BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME garbage. Every DEMCORATIC PRESIDENT PUSHED FOR A lostincalifornia Aug 18 #35
Was someone talking about complicity? I missed that. AloeVera Aug 17 #33
What about the large Democratic donors and leaders that kneecapped POTUS Biden? PufPuf23 Aug 17 #34
Gee, those poor self-identified progressives. The Supreme Court was at stake in 2016, yet those poor lostincalifornia Aug 18 #36
Sounds very Project 2025ish to me. Christians hate and despise Islam, and they want to wipe RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 14 #17
There are Ecumenical Christians who are comfortable w other religions... electric_blue68 Aug 14 #18
Bibi is a monster, along w drumphf. electric_blue68 Aug 14 #19
And they haven't been a bit subtle about it. marble falls Aug 15 #29
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