That sounds oddly familiar...

Hitler is smiling in Hell.

The current war is an excuse for further expansion.

Does anyone think Israelis will voluntarily abandon the homes & communities they've built, to enable a 2-state solution?

has been calling for an armed intervention against Israel for some time now but of course the US blocks any restraint of Israel in even the mildest form.

Are European Union countries calling for that, or the UK, Australia, Japan, China?

pushing for an international force but it has grown very large now in the General Assembly. The Europeans have been wishy-washy about actually doing anythi9ng but they are getting ripped to shreds by members in their own parliaments for not even being willing to at least take any sanctions action against Israel.

All along the idea of an international force would have been the proper thing even form the beginning in 1948 but the US and Great Britain were locked in a battle for control of oil in the Middle East, along with other political battles between groups, and so nothing was done. After 1967 the US pushed hard and demanded that the UN allow Israel to be the "administration/security" in Gaza and the West Bank.

From that point forward any and all conferences, negotiations etc. have always been more farce by Israel rather than anything really approaching a serious 2 state solution. For example they made a proposal that involved all kinds of non-contiguous plots of land in the West Bank separated by Israeli roads and checkpoints with Israel controlling everything in and out and all movement of people. Hardly a viable situation.

Israel has fought all along against the idea of an international peacekeeping force despite the fact that it has been in place in the Sinai and has worked well for many decades.

Bibi is pursuing genocide in Gaza and eventually he will do something in the West Bank as well unless he is somehow stopped. I do not understand how world leaders can watch these actions and do nothing.

with the genocide going on and no one stepping in to stop it, is comparable to our situation with Trump. He does all this shit and no one is stopping him. I swear, it's like Netanyahu and Trump are living in regular time and the rest of us are in slow motion, powerless to catch up in time and restrain them. Damn, these are interesting times!

I don't think Israel is going to be satisfied until they get every Arab out of anything they declare as theirs. And they don't seem to be concerned whether that be by kicking Palestinians out of family homes and into the streets or bombing the crap out of them. Then Hammas will reconstitute from the remains, aided by other countries, and the atrocities will be visited upon Israel again. And then Israel will do the same rinse, lather, repeat. It's a cycle of violence for which I don't think there's ANY answer. This is one part of the world I give up on. No one is willing to talk about what it takes to live together. One reason against the two-state solution is that with Palestinians "integrated" into Israel, they no longer have a hereditary home and they fall completely under jurisdiction of Israel... ruled by someone completely of a different faith in a land of three religions of "The Book". And at this point, due to what's happening here in the U.S. and the Middle East, I'm tired of people of "The Book" thinking they have the lock on salvation. What they're doing sure doesn't look divinely inspired to me... neither by God nor Allah.

Takes me back to the old days of John Lennon... "Imagine there was no religion..."

I don't see an end to it, either.

The idea of the 2-state solution is that Palestine will be a sovereign nation, not integrated into Israel.

But that won't happen with settlements and connecting roads slicing & dicing the West Bank.

I'm with you on religion. The three Abrahamic faiths ostensibly worship the same God. Jerusalem should be an international city of peace and brotherhood, but it's been the focus of intense violence for millennia, every warring faction believing that God is on their side.

No need to cast a curse upon their houses. It was laid upon them a long time ago.

Wide spread theft, and citizens' rights be damned.

I'm tired of hearing these 3 despots will be held, "accountable," whatever that means. Throw their asses in prison, and let the affected countries heal.

Robert Maxwell (Gisselle's father), and the further entanglement he had with Epstein and Trump. If I could, I'd promote that investigative report by Wolff from the mountaintops. It sure puts a lot of what's going on now front and center, things that have been "hidden" for decades.

She provides sources in her book. In her interviews she says everyone speaks about Epstein and underage girls ignoring the fact that he was helping rich people all over the globe hide money.

Her book - (people say it’s difficult to read) also it’s two volumes.

“ One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Organized Crime That Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein.”

I've become so much more cynical than I've ever been before... and I thought I was already pretty cynical! Today, I feel like there is no government that's "good"... they're all in it for themselves to make as much money as possible, no matter who's hurt in the process. I'd wish for a deserted island someplace, but we've overpopulated the Earth so much there's no where to hide anymore.

that it was from Slate. That was yesterday, and I'm fighting walking pneumonia... not feeling my best right now. Sorry.

they will move to full scale war on those in the West Bank, stealing land, killing whomever they please, and the US will pay for the weapons to do it.

WE, the American Taxpayers, will be paying for the weapons for Israel to wipe out whomever they want. No wonder everyone expects the AntiChrist to arise from the Middle East. Decades upon decades of rape, murder, abduction and murder abduction and bombs, rinse lather and repeat. It doesn't speak well of religion as a general concept, let alone a guiding principle in one's life. But I'm letting my own crisis of faith color my opinions, no doubt. I'm just sick of seeing religion held up as "Good" while it's used by so many people to dominate and kill anyone not of the faith. And that, too, will be coming to the U.S. soon, I have no doubt, thanks to the NAR. Because of course, everyone knows the 2nd coming can't happen unless the Jewish people turn from their faith and accept Christ. And I doubt the Muslims are going to look kindly on that, either. What was the name of that movie from the 70's... "The Late, Great, Planet Earth?" I forget who wrote the book... the name is in my memory cells, I just can't bring it to the forefront right now. Wait a minute... Hal Lindsey... wasn't that his name? My mother and I saw that in the theater, both of us just shaking our damned heads.

I often say that religion is the most corrosive thing to society that humans have ever created. It causes more harm than any good it does.

Look at what is happening in our country due to weaponized religion.

anything can be weaponized... from the smallest grain of sand to the largest comet. But there's just something so disheartening when it's religion. Religion (or at least spirituality) has the capacity to bring people together for the good of all. But that requires giving up the greed of the little "self" and thinking in terms of the good of everyone. Too few people grok that anymore.

I have absolutely no doubt religion WILL be weaponized, unless we can get this maladministration out of office, and then start working on tearing down the "faith" departments that have made inroads in our government, especially since bush, jr. I was so disappointed that Obama supported them, even giving them more money. My reading of the Constitution says this is not legal... that it's government supporting one religion over all others, and worse than that even... supporting one BRANCH of one religion over everyone else. But hea, I'm not a constitutional scholar. I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express, as the ad goes. My understanding is of a common person reading the words. And we've sure seen with SCOTUS how they can banter back and forth what a simple word means... like "shall" vs "will." grrrr

We really need more young people in the Senate & Congress for anything to change. I hope the people of the US start electing young anti war politicians.

figured if I did the swarm would come and envelop me and I wasn't in the mood for that yesterday, but "Greater Israel" has been a goal of the right wing there for a long time and it takes parts of several countries.

I hope we elect anti-war politicians too....but not holding my breath.

Trust and loyalty are important, and those who betrayed the party with their treachery need to know that such things have consequences. From the White House to the State House... from the county-execs, to the city-mayor all the way down to the local dog-catcher... honesty and trust and loyalty are always important to me.

Because Trump is President ignores 70 years of history of Israeli-Palestinian relations.

Also, US support for Israel has been constant under every administration.

two-state solution, and that includes VP Harris, who campaigned on it, had four point plan which included ceasefire, return of hostages, rebuilding Gaza, and to the negotiating table for a two-state solution.

There was no question where trump stood verses VP Harris.

as for your convenient 70 year time frame, during most of that time the Arab neighbors, along with the PLO refused the UN Partition Resolution based on the British mandate, continuously tried to destroy Israel through multiple wars, and declared through the Khartoum Resolution there would be "No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, and No recognition of Israel.

No peace with Israel, No negotiation with Israel, No recognition of Israel. "The Three Noes", Khartoum Resolution, 1967.

Jimmy Carter started a comprehensive peace process, and that was continued by Bill Clinton using the Oslo accords as the basis, and Clinton had a framework in place when he was leaving office, leaving a continuation of that framework for the next administration to continue. Unfortunately, the republicans won, with the help of Nader and those who pushed the LIE that there was no difference between republicans and Democrats.

The bush administration completely ignored the Clinton Administration's middle east peace progress, trashed canned the Graham/Hart report on al qaeda, and ignored the presidential daily briefings. 9/11 happened, and the entire middle east peace process was put on ICE.

While President Obama tried to move negotiations back toward a framework for a two-state solution, very little happened in that regard, however, he did accomplish a lot in other areas, including a negotiated nuclear agreement with Iran, safeguards to minimize another financial implosion, ACA, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the raid that got rid of bin Laden, opened Cuban relations, advanced LGBT rights, Lilly Ledbetter act, etc.

Unfortunately, with the help of some of the same actors in 2000, we lost in 2016, the Supreme Court, and almost everything the Obama Administration had accomplished was reversed when trump won in 2016.

and while Democrats regained control in 2020, the damage done by trump was so massive that four years was not enough to reverse it. When Saudi Arabia along with other Arab countries offered a substantive peace plan, that was a major factor which motivated Hamas to do October 7, derail any peace process with Israel, and impacted the 2024 election because of the blind ignorance of some who refused to vote for VP Harris.

So yes, those who refused to vote for VP Harris in 2024 ARE COMPLICIT, not only with what is happening here in the U.S., but also Gaza.

What happened in 2016 wasn't enough for them, they needed to seal it with 2024.

I thought the o/p was about Israel's plans to "bury" the Palestinians state?

I assume everyone here is against that. I hope I'm right.

So, in relation to the subject of the o/p, I'd like to add my own special word: impunity.

Let's talk about 77 years of impunity and how that led to the burying of the Palestinian state.

Lots of "blame" cast at handy targets.

Harms the Party and the nation.

Same as it has ever been in my lifetime. I identified as a Democrat as a teen and have voted exclusively Democratic for over 50 years. One exception was voted for John Anderson in California 1980 GOP primary to slow Reagan. Voted often for candidates that were other than own druthers. Genuinely excited about Harris.

What stays the same is scapegoat the "leftists" and youth, maintain the MIC and redistribute wealth upward.

self-identified progressives not only refused to vote for the Democratic nominee, but encouraged others to do likewise.

In every swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those swing states, and it made all the difference.

Worse, there were several high ranking people involved in the campaign of one of the Democratic candidates, who publicly not only refused to vote for the Democratic nominee, but encouraged others to do likewise.

David Sirota, Nina Turner, Brihana Joy Gray, etc.

As for the left and the young people, the die has been cast for their future because of the foolishness of some not voting for VP Harris.

Muslims off the map. Israel is basically a Trump property.

At Episcopal Cathedral St John The Divine I've seen special services with Pastors, Rabbis, and Imans.