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In reply to the discussion: Greg Abbott Threatens to Expel Texas Democrats as They Thwart Redistricting [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(169,760 posts)40. Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office. Ge
I have known Chad Dunn for a while. He is a great election law attorney who got the Texas voter id law largely gutted a long time ago.
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Texas Constitution explicitly enables the possibility of a so-called quorum break, the Supreme Court of Texas ruled in 2021, although it also allows for consequences to bring members back.
Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office.
I am aware of absolutely no authority that says breaking quorum is the same as the intent to abandon a seat, said Charles Rocky Rhodes, a constitutional law expert at the University of Missouri law school. That would require the courts extending the premise to the breaking point. Its inconsistent with the very text of the Texas Constitution.
Chad Dunn, a former attorney for the Texas Democratic Party, said proving abandonment of office would require showing that the member had failed to perform the duty of their office and intended to relinquish the seat, both of which he argues are not evident in a quorum break.
It is not just an option, but one of the features of elected office to decide whether to appear and help establish quorum, Dunn said. Each member as part of their duty of office must make that decision.
Paxton himself has acknowledged that this would likely be a lengthy and complicated process, telling conservative podcaster Benny Johnson that theyd have to bring individual lawsuits in each district.
Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office.
I am aware of absolutely no authority that says breaking quorum is the same as the intent to abandon a seat, said Charles Rocky Rhodes, a constitutional law expert at the University of Missouri law school. That would require the courts extending the premise to the breaking point. Its inconsistent with the very text of the Texas Constitution.
Chad Dunn, a former attorney for the Texas Democratic Party, said proving abandonment of office would require showing that the member had failed to perform the duty of their office and intended to relinquish the seat, both of which he argues are not evident in a quorum break.
It is not just an option, but one of the features of elected office to decide whether to appear and help establish quorum, Dunn said. Each member as part of their duty of office must make that decision.
Paxton himself has acknowledged that this would likely be a lengthy and complicated process, telling conservative podcaster Benny Johnson that theyd have to bring individual lawsuits in each district.
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Greg Abbott Threatens to Expel Texas Democrats as They Thwart Redistricting [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Aug 4
OP
As a precinct chair in Texas, we do have something called "abandonment of office".
LeftInTX
Aug 4
#29
Nothing fascist about this. Either you allow us to rig the system or we arrest you. Such a choice.
Karasu
Aug 4
#3
Abbott threatens to try to expel Democrats who fled Texas, escalating tensions
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 4
#10
Except they aren't abandoning it they are simply taking vacations and they are going to be returning.
cstanleytech
Aug 4
#16
Dems respond simply to Abbott's threat to remove them from office if they don't return by tomorrow afternoon:
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 4
#13
A scheme that's also at the direction of the sitting President with the goal of assisting him which might be a no-no.
cstanleytech
Aug 4
#18
Gov. Greg Abbott's options to force a redistricting vote are more limited than they appear
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 4
#26
By what legal process can a governor "expel" members of the opposition party on the Legislature?
Martin68
Aug 4
#28
(From the OP) "Abbott said in his statement: 'these legislators may also have committed felonies.'"
red dog 1
Aug 4
#31
"The felony" would be misuse of campaign funds. But they've been careful about it.
LeftInTX
Aug 4
#32