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40. Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office. Ge
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 04:46 PM
Aug 5

I have known Chad Dunn for a while. He is a great election law attorney who got the Texas voter id law largely gutted a long time ago.



https://www.texastribune.org/2025/08/05/texas-democrats-ken-paxton-court-vacate-seats-quorum-break

Texas’ Constitution explicitly enables the possibility of a so-called “quorum break,” the Supreme Court of Texas ruled in 2021, although it also allows for consequences to bring members back.

Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office.

“I am aware of absolutely no authority that says breaking quorum is the same as the intent to abandon a seat,” said Charles “Rocky” Rhodes, a constitutional law expert at the University of Missouri law school. “That would require the courts extending the premise to the breaking point. It’s inconsistent with the very text of the Texas Constitution.”

Chad Dunn, a former attorney for the Texas Democratic Party, said proving abandonment of office would require showing that the member had failed to perform the duty of their office and intended to relinquish the seat, both of which he argues are not evident in a quorum break.

“It is not just an option, but one of the features of elected office to decide whether to appear and help establish quorum,” Dunn said. “Each member as part of their duty of office must make that decision.”

Paxton himself has acknowledged that this would likely be a lengthy and complicated process, telling conservative podcaster Benny Johnson that they’d have to bring individual lawsuits in each district.

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Does Greg Abbott also intend to change the number for a quorum? no_hypocrisy Aug 4 #1
Yes, GQP main goal is to have one party system.................. Lovie777 Aug 4 #2
As a precinct chair in Texas, we do have something called "abandonment of office". LeftInTX Aug 4 #29
Nothing fascist about this. Either you allow us to rig the system or we arrest you. Such a choice. Karasu Aug 4 #3
Criminals LOVE getting away with sh*t! SupportSanity Aug 4 #11
I guess Republicans aren't real Texas liberalgunwilltravel Aug 4 #4
How does the executive branch police the legislative branch in TX?9 niyad Aug 4 #5
Fuck you where you breathe, Hot Wheels. (nt) Paladin Aug 4 #6
Time for the Blue States to do they same Chasstev365 Aug 4 #7
I expect every state to be heavily gerrymandered by 2026 cadoman Aug 4 #23
LOL...Abbott in panic mode because he's not able to please his Fuhrer Bengus81 Aug 4 #8
Hot Wheels, please proceed. Brainfodder Aug 4 #9
Abbott threatens to try to expel Democrats who fled Texas, escalating tensions LetMyPeopleVote Aug 4 #10
Alex, I'll take "What is Propaganda?" for $500. SupportSanity Aug 4 #14
Even if they had "special elections" BumRushDaShow Aug 4 #15
Except they aren't abandoning it they are simply taking vacations and they are going to be returning. cstanleytech Aug 4 #16
I have little confidence in the Texas state courts. TomSlick Aug 4 #36
Uhhh ... what Constitution allows him to do that? FakeNoose Aug 4 #12
The state constitution does DavidDvorkin Aug 4 #17
Politico article explains how: LeftInTX Aug 4 #33
Dems respond simply to Abbott's threat to remove them from office if they don't return by tomorrow afternoon: LetMyPeopleVote Aug 4 #13
A scheme that's also at the direction of the sitting President with the goal of assisting him which might be a no-no. cstanleytech Aug 4 #18
Background: LudwigPastorius Aug 4 #19
Looks like the Dems removed themselves. Sneederbunk Aug 4 #20
This was the so-called (nonsensical) Paxton "opinion" BumRushDaShow Aug 4 #21
I'd rather just expel Greg Abbott. Nothing of value would be lost there! Initech Aug 4 #22
Not sure he can legally do that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 4 #24
"Expel"? What, are they just a bunch of recalcitrant middle schoolers or what? Texin Aug 4 #25
Gov. Greg Abbott's options to force a redistricting vote are more limited than they appear LetMyPeopleVote Aug 4 #26
Pretty sure that can't happen on Abbott's whims. 634-5789 Aug 4 #27
By what legal process can a governor "expel" members of the opposition party on the Legislature? Martin68 Aug 4 #28
They're nuckin futs for sure. twodogsbarking Aug 4 #30
(From the OP) "Abbott said in his statement: 'these legislators may also have committed felonies.'" red dog 1 Aug 4 #31
"The felony" would be misuse of campaign funds. But they've been careful about it. LeftInTX Aug 4 #32
"Remove Democrats". That's exactly what gerrymandering will do anyway. JohnnyRingo Aug 4 #34
Greg Abbott YoshidaYui Aug 4 #35
Opposition... Godot51 Aug 4 #37
"Real Texans do not run from a fight." OldBaldy1701E Aug 5 #38
Paxton to seek judicial orders declaring Democrat quorum-busters seats vacant if they are not back by Friday LetMyPeopleVote Aug 5 #39
Legal experts say it would be difficult to argue that engaging in a quorum break qualifies as abandonment of office. Ge LetMyPeopleVote Aug 5 #40
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