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Ford_Prefect

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25. Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:40 PM
Apr 30

I have seen it raise and lower editorial skirts since the early 60's. NYT tried to blow both ways all too often. As it turned out there were "plants" among the editors and writing staff who favored the views assigned by State Dept., CIA, and other, more commercial establishments depending on the era and the issues at hand. They were not the only major paper subject to those influences.

More recently the rise in media consolidation, corporate, and oligarchic ownership has made many a masthead into an outlet for status quo, or establishment, and in some cases RW propaganda. The Times is no less subject to such influence and must be read with more than a few grains of salt, IMO.

And yes they have recently been too often guilty of promoting the GOP or Trumpian line about Joe Biden, Obama, and Democrats in general. Far too often they have indulged in both-siderism or at least selective obfuscation. That they now face a comeuppance is due to their intermittent acceptance of the GOP party line without so much as a follow-up or at least some research to balance it. Much the same for the MSM as a whole. Too lazy by half to put the onus where it belongs.

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I thought they were "failing". louis-t Apr 30 #1
He wants to control the reporting. pandr32 Apr 30 #2
I get it. I was being sarcastic. louis-t Apr 30 #3
No Free Press in America Anymore Since the Cha Apr 30 #11
He's always been a liar. pandr32 Apr 30 #19
Aloha , Pandr! Cha Apr 30 #23
I laugh at that every time the piece of orange shit says "the failing NY Times" FoxNewsSucks Apr 30 #30
"We Are Intently Studying"!! The Roux Comes First Apr 30 #4
What does that even mean? "Intently"? calimary Apr 30 #7
No, it is a normal word muriel_volestrangler May 1 #34
Good to know. Thanks! calimary May 1 #35
He must have learned a new word. ShazzieB Apr 30 #14
Remember when he used the term "bigly"? Someone must have taken..... FadedMullet May 1 #32
Not to come to his defense (shudder) but I believe he was slurring "big league." n/t royable May 1 #33
"Tortious interference including in elections." boonecreek Apr 30 #5
Fake fight fujiyamasan Apr 30 #6
All Trump fights are fake, but he really does have a lawsuit against CBS. maxsolomon Apr 30 #17
Who said anything about hating the NYT? fujiyamasan Apr 30 #27
"it's actually one of the better newspapers out there." maxsolomon May 1 #42
It's a monster the NY Times did everything to create. NNadir Apr 30 #8
you're right... agingdem Apr 30 #12
Yes. Peter Baker had an article today using the word "fervor" to describe Trump's energy and activity. Lonestarblue Apr 30 #13
"Fervor"...aka vomit-spewing hate-fueled rage tantrums agingdem Apr 30 #24
It definitely did not write that TS post AKwannabe Apr 30 #9
True that. ShazzieB Apr 30 #15
ABOUT BLOODY TIME THEY DID, TOO! Ford_Prefect Apr 30 #10
Did you see today's NYT cover page? maxsolomon Apr 30 #18
The NYT has been "normalizing" DJT since before his first term in office. They've only recently noticed his excesses, Ford_Prefect Apr 30 #21
We must be reading different papers. maxsolomon Apr 30 #22
Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam. Ford_Prefect Apr 30 #25
So, you do subscribe now? I don't think you said. maxsolomon Apr 30 #26
I read the NYT every day.... reACTIONary Apr 30 #29
You cant believe this Hornedfrog2000 May 1 #37
Yes I believe it, no they did not... reACTIONary May 1 #40
That's a laugh..... reACTIONary Apr 30 #31
Trump is a politician and a public figure. hadEnuf Apr 30 #16
NYT finally pulled their head out of their ass. Joinfortmill Apr 30 #20
Huh, the NYT, is learning you can not placate a bully. republianmushroom Apr 30 #28
Trump derrangement syndrome isnt a real thing Hornedfrog2000 May 1 #36
It is if you're talking about Dump, he's definitely deranged. mdbl May 1 #38
Resistance is the only way to deal with Trump at this point. Every firm that folded under Trump's threats should Martin68 May 1 #39
No way MorbidButterflyTat May 1 #41
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