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BumRushDaShow

(151,641 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:19 PM Wednesday

New York Times fires back after Trump threat

Source: The Hill

04/30/25 11:34 AM ET


The New York Times issued a firm rebuke of President Trump on Wednesday after the president threatened the news outlet with legal action over reporting on the litigation in which he is locked with Paramount Global, the parent company of CBS News.

“President Trump’s post today follows a long list of legal threats aimed at discouraging or penalizing independent reporting about the administration. The law is clear and protects a strong free press and favors an informed American public,” the Times said in a statement to The Hill.

The outlet was referencing a social media post by Trump earlier Wednesday morning in which the president accused Times journalists of having “TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, possibly to the point where the Times’ interjection makes them liable for tortious interference, including in Elections, which we are intently studying.”

The Times on Tuesday evening published a report laying out an effort by lawyers for the president and Paramount Global to secure a settlement in connection with the lawsuit he filed over an interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris on “60 Minutes,” a CBS News program. The report noted “legal experts have called the suit baseless and an easy victory for CBS,” an assertion Trump pushed back aggressively on in his Truth Social post.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5274926-trump-threatens-new-york-times/

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New York Times fires back after Trump threat (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
I thought they were "failing". louis-t Wednesday #1
He wants to control the reporting. pandr32 Wednesday #2
I get it. I was being sarcastic. louis-t Wednesday #3
No Free Press in America Anymore Since the Cha Wednesday #11
He's always been a liar. pandr32 Wednesday #19
Aloha , Pandr! Cha Wednesday #23
I laugh at that every time the piece of orange shit says "the failing NY Times" FoxNewsSucks Wednesday #30
"We Are Intently Studying"!! The Roux Comes First Wednesday #4
What does that even mean? "Intently"? calimary Wednesday #7
No, it is a normal word muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #34
Good to know. Thanks! calimary Yesterday #35
He must have learned a new word. ShazzieB Wednesday #14
Remember when he used the term "bigly"? Someone must have taken..... FadedMullet Yesterday #32
Not to come to his defense (shudder) but I believe he was slurring "big league." n/t royable Yesterday #33
"Tortious interference including in elections." boonecreek Wednesday #5
Fake fight fujiyamasan Wednesday #6
All Trump fights are fake, but he really does have a lawsuit against CBS. maxsolomon Wednesday #17
Who said anything about hating the NYT? fujiyamasan Wednesday #27
"it's actually one of the better newspapers out there." maxsolomon Yesterday #42
It's a monster the NY Times did everything to create. NNadir Wednesday #8
you're right... agingdem Wednesday #12
Yes. Peter Baker had an article today using the word "fervor" to describe Trump's energy and activity. Lonestarblue Wednesday #13
"Fervor"...aka vomit-spewing hate-fueled rage tantrums agingdem Wednesday #24
It definitely did not write that TS post AKwannabe Wednesday #9
True that. ShazzieB Wednesday #15
ABOUT BLOODY TIME THEY DID, TOO! Ford_Prefect Wednesday #10
Did you see today's NYT cover page? maxsolomon Wednesday #18
The NYT has been "normalizing" DJT since before his first term in office. They've only recently noticed his excesses, Ford_Prefect Wednesday #21
We must be reading different papers. maxsolomon Wednesday #22
Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam. Ford_Prefect Wednesday #25
So, you do subscribe now? I don't think you said. maxsolomon Wednesday #26
I read the NYT every day.... reACTIONary Wednesday #29
You cant believe this Hornedfrog2000 Yesterday #37
Yes I believe it, no they did not... reACTIONary Yesterday #40
That's a laugh..... reACTIONary Wednesday #31
Trump is a politician and a public figure. hadEnuf Wednesday #16
NYT finally pulled their head out of their ass. Joinfortmill Wednesday #20
Huh, the NYT, is learning you can not placate a bully. republianmushroom Wednesday #28
Trump derrangement syndrome isnt a real thing Hornedfrog2000 Yesterday #36
It is if you're talking about Dump, he's definitely deranged. mdbl Yesterday #38
Resistance is the only way to deal with Trump at this point. Every firm that folded under Trump's threats should Martin68 Yesterday #39
No way MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #41

pandr32

(12,909 posts)
2. He wants to control the reporting.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:30 PM
Wednesday

His own narrative is what he wants amplified and not contradicted.

Cha

(310,145 posts)
11. No Free Press in America Anymore Since the
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:23 PM
Wednesday

Fascist Shitler took over.. That's the way he wants it, anyway... A Goebbels run country. Mump is the Minister of Propaganda.

Joseph Goebbels was the Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany1. He was responsible for presenting Hitler to the public, regulating German media, and fomenting anti-Semitism123. Goebbels also orchestrated the burning of "un-German" books in Berlin and used motion pictures to spread propaganda

pandr32

(12,909 posts)
19. He's always been a liar.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:32 PM
Wednesday

What a kid he must have been. His family money and influence always pulled him out of scrapes and even military school didn't deter him from his bloviating and bullying.
Nazi style fits him. He admires the way they made everyone fall in line and Putin is as skilled with propaganda as the Nazis. He combines the two and maintains his life-long lying, bloviating, and bullying style. I wish he would face consequences.
Aloha, Cha!

Cha

(310,145 posts)
23. Aloha , Pandr!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:50 PM
Wednesday

Yes, he's following the Nazi, Putin playbook and must be so drenched in Boomerang Ketchup when any News Outlets don't bow and do his bidding.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,139 posts)
30. I laugh at that every time the piece of orange shit says "the failing NY Times"
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:25 PM
Wednesday

I hate the Times for propping up BushCheneyCo's illegal war, and always carrying water for the right, but still find it funny that they've been "failing" for more than the last ten years according to that filthy lying conman rapist.

The Roux Comes First

(1,683 posts)
4. "We Are Intently Studying"!!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:35 PM
Wednesday

What a hoot! Even in the case of things he seems to actually care about, like, say, golf, he ends up resorting to cheating and bragging. Maybe it is the royal "we," with anyone but him doing the actual work, albeit then the doofuses and nimrods who so desperately cling to him.

calimary

(86,038 posts)
7. What does that even mean? "Intently"?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:30 PM
Wednesday

Did they mean “intensely” but just spelled it wrong?

Did they mean “intentionally” but got their adverbs mixed up?

I didn’t know “intently” was an actual word.

ShazzieB

(20,437 posts)
14. He must have learned a new word.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:08 PM
Wednesday

In his first term, he would talk about "looking at [a thing] very strongly." That used to drive me nuts, because I've never heard anyone but himself ever use "strongly" that way (or at all, really).

I feel silly talking about a minor annoyance right now, with all the horrible stuff that's going on, but that used to be one of my pet peeves. If he nw wants to say "intently studying" instead, maybe I can focus my anger in a more appropriate direction!

FadedMullet

(82 posts)
32. Remember when he used the term "bigly"? Someone must have taken.....
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:09 AM
Yesterday

.....him aside and explained how dumb it sounded. Make that a large group of people, what one might call an intervention, and the did it several times.

royable

(1,426 posts)
33. Not to come to his defense (shudder) but I believe he was slurring "big league." n/t
Thu May 1, 2025, 03:08 AM
Yesterday

On edit, but it still sounded stupid.

boonecreek

(868 posts)
5. "Tortious interference including in elections."
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:02 PM
Wednesday

Would that include the blizzard of lies coming from his campaign last fall?

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
17. All Trump fights are fake, but he really does have a lawsuit against CBS.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:23 PM
Wednesday

I don't agree that the NYT "needs" Trump.

Looks like you're another NYT Hater; you'll find plenty of company on DU.

fujiyamasan

(74 posts)
27. Who said anything about hating the NYT?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:44 PM
Wednesday

Of course the NYT needs Trump. He sells subscriptions and they want access. This isn’t about hating the news paper. Given the sad state of journalism, it’s actually one of the better newspapers out there.

I know the lawsuit against CBS is “real”, but it’s also performative on the part of CBS and it’s more about preserving capital, rather than fighting for journalistic ethics or whatever other bullshit. In the end both the NYT and CBS will settle and more or less on Trump’s terms.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
42. "it's actually one of the better newspapers out there."
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:35 PM
Yesterday

LOL, careful what you say around here.

stick around and you'll see there's a great deal of kneejerk hostility towards the NYT on DU.

NNadir

(35,704 posts)
8. It's a monster the NY Times did everything to create.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:34 PM
Wednesday

"...but her emails..."

"...too old Joe..." etc.

agingdem

(8,556 posts)
12. you're right...
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:25 PM
Wednesday

four long years of the NYT (Peter Baker and cohorts) parsing/sanitizing Trump verbal vomit into thoughtful discourse...four long years of never ending op-eds trashing Biden...four long years of the NYT making nice with Trump assuming he would direct his loathing for the press at their competitors..and now, after giving Trump another platform to spew his Hitler-speak without pushback the NYT has found themselves at the receiving end of Trump's revenge...too fucking bad...




Lonestarblue

(12,578 posts)
13. Yes. Peter Baker had an article today using the word "fervor" to describe Trump's energy and activity.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:34 PM
Wednesday

I commented that the Times should stop treating Trump with kid gloves and start using words like utter destruction to describe Trump’s activities.

agingdem

(8,556 posts)
24. "Fervor"...aka vomit-spewing hate-fueled rage tantrums
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:12 PM
Wednesday

Peter Baker and his ilk never called Trump's bullshit "lies"...instead they referenced Trump's regurgitating sludge as exaggerations/misrepresentations/fabrications/falsehoods/misinformation...they said he misstated/distorted/dissembled/equivocated....but never "he's lying...again"..

AKwannabe

(6,746 posts)
9. It definitely did not write that TS post
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:40 PM
Wednesday

It cannot put coherent sentences together!

Someone else wrote that shit.
For sure. It is literally too stupid for the punctuation etc

Lol

ShazzieB

(20,437 posts)
15. True that.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:12 PM
Wednesday

I think he must have someone who translates his incoherent rants into intelligible English and then posts the stuff for him.

Ford_Prefect

(8,356 posts)
10. ABOUT BLOODY TIME THEY DID, TOO!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:54 PM
Wednesday

Too comfortable by half they are with normalizing DJT and all who sail in him.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
18. Did you see today's NYT cover page?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:26 PM
Wednesday

Didn't "normalize" him one iota - multiple 100 Days stories, above the fold. It was damning, but the objective language of the headlines won't be good enough for DU.

Ford_Prefect

(8,356 posts)
21. The NYT has been "normalizing" DJT since before his first term in office. They've only recently noticed his excesses,
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:39 PM
Wednesday

and his threats.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
22. We must be reading different papers.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:44 PM
Wednesday

Do you subscribe? It sounds like you do, or you wouldn't have noticed a recent change.

Ford_Prefect

(8,356 posts)
25. Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:40 PM
Wednesday

I have seen it raise and lower editorial skirts since the early 60's. NYT tried to blow both ways all too often. As it turned out there were "plants" among the editors and writing staff who favored the views assigned by State Dept., CIA, and other, more commercial establishments depending on the era and the issues at hand. They were not the only major paper subject to those influences.

More recently the rise in media consolidation, corporate, and oligarchic ownership has made many a masthead into an outlet for status quo, or establishment, and in some cases RW propaganda. The Times is no less subject to such influence and must be read with more than a few grains of salt, IMO.

And yes they have recently been too often guilty of promoting the GOP or Trumpian line about Joe Biden, Obama, and Democrats in general. Far too often they have indulged in both-siderism or at least selective obfuscation. That they now face a comeuppance is due to their intermittent acceptance of the GOP party line without so much as a follow-up or at least some research to balance it. Much the same for the MSM as a whole. Too lazy by half to put the onus where it belongs.

maxsolomon

(36,456 posts)
26. So, you do subscribe now? I don't think you said.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:54 PM
Wednesday

You did during Vietnam, 50-plus years ago. That seems clear.

I read everything with a grain of salt, and in any NYT news report on MFer, I read between the lines. They're nowhere close to the Trump ally that DU seems to think they are.

The general disdain comes through if you look. Certainly, MFer can see it, since he's attacking them for a line like “legal experts have called the suit baseless and an easy victory for CBS."

reACTIONary

(6,396 posts)
29. I read the NYT every day....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:00 PM
Wednesday

.... they do not "normalize" TSF. In fact, they and the WaPo are responsible for a great amount , if not most, of the enterprise and investigative journalism that has exposed him over and over.

This is a cliche criticism that is lobbed around indiscriminately against all news organizations.

reACTIONary

(6,396 posts)
40. Yes I believe it, no they did not...
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:09 AM
Yesterday

... "white wash" any candidate, but especially not TSF.

As far as their influence on the election.... about zero, one way or the other. There are just not that many people who read the NYT or the WaPo.

Their influence would be in exclusive stories that they develop and are picked up by other news services (including, of course, Raw Story). These are almost always, of course, negative. Because good news is no news.

This "normalization" critic is lazy, cliche thinking. So is blaming the messenger in any case.

reACTIONary

(6,396 posts)
31. That's a laugh.....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:36 PM
Wednesday

... I've been reading it for decades. No normalization of TSF that I've seen. Just straight reporting, and often enterprise and investigative reports that expose him.

The one TSF is criticizing is an example. It reports the reasons why CBS is willing to compromise on what “legal experts have called (a) suit baseless suit and an easy victory for CBS", basically exposing TSF's use of regulatory power to pursue umcostitional suppression of free speech.

That is not "normalization".

hadEnuf

(3,157 posts)
16. Trump is a politician and a public figure.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:19 PM
Wednesday

The press can write whatever they damn well please about him.


However, if Trump is right then every single right-wing media outlet can be sued out of existence.

Hornedfrog2000

(155 posts)
36. Trump derrangement syndrome isnt a real thing
Thu May 1, 2025, 05:37 AM
Yesterday

I know some cook, quack psychiatrist wrote an article about it, but its not a thing. However, being a deluded cult member is. Trump deluded syndrome would be a more apt name for a diagnosis of his cult members.

mdbl

(6,360 posts)
38. It is if you're talking about Dump, he's definitely deranged.
Thu May 1, 2025, 07:21 AM
Yesterday

And most of the magats have it too.

Martin68

(25,614 posts)
39. Resistance is the only way to deal with Trump at this point. Every firm that folded under Trump's threats should
Thu May 1, 2025, 09:57 AM
Yesterday

be publicly shamed for their cowardly appeasement.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,890 posts)
41. No way
Thu May 1, 2025, 12:21 PM
Yesterday

"...possibly to the point where the Times’ interjection makes them liable for tortious interference, including in Elections, which we are intently studying'.”

No way the orange moron wrote that. NO WAY.

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