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Shipwack

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18. I have two complicating thoughts on this.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:07 AM
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1) Blue governors might not be able to mobilize the National Guard units in their state. If someone in the Trump administration knows their history (stop laughing), they could pull a Johnson (the former President, not Speaker) and nationalize the troops in their state. This puts the units under Federal control, not state.

2) There is no such thing as a “blue” or “red” National Guard unit. Just like the states, everything is a mixture. No one is going to be enthusiastic about shooting anyone, I think.

I have no idea how things are in the Guard these days. My only experience is from my father being in it full time in the ‘70s. I recall things being a bit more… let’s call it “laid back”. I don’t think any of the people in my father’s unit would be eager to start shooting at American citizens, let alone fellow Guard members. I could very well be wrong on this. Maybe the NG has tightened up a bit. After all, it’s been 50 years (that long?!) and a few conflicts since then.

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