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bob4460

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3. Our founding fathers never believed

Reply to red dog 1 (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:06 PM

Jun 5

That there would be enough members of Congress that would let a president break the laws so blatantly.

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"There is no word to adequately describe the anger, frustration, & disbelief that Americans are feeling.." [View all] red dog 1 Jun 5 OP

my same words... markie Jun 5 #1

We used to have.people in office who, despite their flaws, wnylib Jun 5 #16

I believe that the founders believed the judiciary would remain independent DFW Jun 6 #44

Conservatives counted on that belief... GiqueCee Jun 6 #55

The current amount of wealth in the USA, dugog55 Jun 6 #64

Can recall early in his first term that people kept asking whether he would "rise allegorical oracle Jun 6 #59

He wouldn't have stayed in office popsdenver Jun 6 #60

Ghandi is often cited as a peaceful protestor with peace being how he attained his goals. However, supporters in2herbs Jun 5 #2

No Dorian Gray Jun 5 #10

Well, let's hope the Congress that convenes after the midterms has one. Otherwise, PatrickforB Jun 5 #26

I'm with you. Joinfortmill Jun 5 #30

Well said popsdenver Jun 6 #62

Back to basics. TommyT139 Jun 6 #68

Count me in, too, PatrickforB! calimary Jun 6 #73

Word! yellow dahlia Jun 5 #33

Yes. But Americans have lost their fighting spirit. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 6 #69

Our founding fathers never believed bob4460 Jun 5 #3

I'm sure the Founding Fathers never considered the possibility that so many elected officials FakeNoose Jun 5 #6

The founders believed that Congressmen would zealously safeguard their own power. Intractable Jun 5 #7

No, they sold it. Traitors! For the love of money! Sweet Rosie Red Jun 5 #24

Who would believe this? yellow dahlia Jun 5 #34

What is the flaw in the constitution? Disaffected Jun 5 #4

Yes PatSeg Jun 5 #14

FOX NEWS, RINSE, REPEAT. Joinfortmill Jun 5 #31

There are fundamental flaws in the constitution Mysterian Jun 5 #38

Yeah, I would agree that the electoral college is an anachronism Disaffected Jun 6 #46

Yes, I agree PatSeg Jun 6 #63

The GOP should homegirl Jun 5 #21

The flaw was their belief that congress could not be corrupted Bettie Jun 6 #53

The flaw is the Electoral College, responsible for Trump's toehold. maddiemom Jun 6 #66

No argument there... nt Disaffected Jun 6 #71

The Constitution gives us two ways to remove a president..impeachment and the 25th amendment but.. Deuxcents Jun 5 #5

This malaise Jun 5 #8

Citizens United created this catastrophe Ponietz Jun 5 #9

I think that needs to be the first of several ammendments. Gore1FL Jun 5 #13

The Constitution was supposed to be a living document, but the founders never saw the country becoming so large that Karasu Jun 6 #51

A Law that would force each and every candidate for public office to Justice matters. Jun 6 #74

Yes, that was arguably one of the worst, Disaffected Jun 6 #47

SCOTUS needs three impeachment votes as well RainCaster Jun 6 #57

Add 4 more justices--make it 13!! Dems should run on it!! (Even if it's hard to do) ! Ars Longa Jun 5 #11

More than that RetiredParatrooper Jun 6 #52

The constitution isn't the problem. It's a assheads interpreting it. n/t SpankMe Jun 5 #12

Or ignoring it PatSeg Jun 5 #20

Rage stage left Jun 5 #15

It's not The Constitution, it is a spineless Republican Congress and a corrupt LoisB Jun 5 #17

It's the Constitution Cirsium Jun 6 #49

The 4 states Cirsium Jun 5 #18

And these 4 states contribute little to the national economy Blue Owl Jun 6 #45

Understood Cirsium Jun 6 #48

Yes, and equal (vs proportional) allocation of Senators is one of the biggest flaws in the Constitution thought crime Jun 6 #77

Kick dalton99a Jun 5 #19

It's you'll Republican... richdj25 Jun 5 #22

Corrupt conservative reprehensible republicans. Festivito Jun 5 #23

"A nation that will not enforce its laws has no claim to the respect and allegiance of its people." progressoid Jun 5 #25

That's a signature line to keep Ponietz Jun 5 #42

Amen to that Joinfortmill Jun 5 #27

the CRAZY part Skittles Jun 5 #28

Trump technically was INELIGIBLE to have run in 2024. maddiemom Jun 6 #72

He was, and the courts turned a blind eye to it. Some even admitted he committed an insurrection and STILL allowed him Karasu Jun 6 #76

Sounds like me. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 5 #29

Me, too. hamsterjill Jun 5 #35

Should have been more checks put in place the first time he was elected!!! We dropped the ball!!!! Pisces Jun 5 #32

Spectacular own goals for the history books Ponietz Jun 5 #43

The English language to the rescue. hay rick Jun 5 #36

So True, no matter how hard Cha Jun 5 #37

What would have stopped him from becoming President the first time? Jedi Guy Jun 5 #39

A better press might have done it. Morbius Jun 5 #40

Maybe, I guess. Jedi Guy Jun 5 #41

We need constitutional law/civics and mental health/sanity requirements for political candidates. Karasu Jun 6 #50

As long as you keep allowing the thing that has constantly created the corruption and degradation... OldBaldy1701E Jun 6 #54

If we don't try them, and if we don't hang them, then we're just enabling tyranny to continue or to happen again. Efilroft Sul Jun 6 #56

That's because there are over 50. ananda Jun 6 #58

That last sentence in the post is so spot on. moreland01 Jun 6 #61

Protections, protections, and more protections, Magoo48 Jun 6 #65

I would add "despair" to that list because trump is getting away with so much and destroying so much in the process. Martin68 Jun 6 #67

Could? No, they will, even if we do manage to end this fascist charade. Karasu Jun 6 #75

A Pessimistic Prognosticator! I hope your crystal ball is defective. Martin68 Sunday #79

I do, too, haha. A lot more qualified political analysts than me have said as much, but I would love to be wrong. Karasu Sunday #82

Unstack The SC too! czarjak Jun 6 #70

Sometimes it is good to hear plain speaking... kentuck Jun 6 #78

It was a good plan but this is what happens when an entire party is corrupt. GoodRaisin Sunday #80

I think it was John Locke who said: kentuck Sunday #81