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Eko

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17. The 1st question is how many missles, drones, airborne and seagoing can a CIWS and missles take care of?

Fri May 15, 2026, 01:48 AM

May 15

2nd is what about mines?
3rd is convincing people to crew big, slow oil tankers.
4th is it only takes one missile, drone, mine to get through to stop the whole thing.
5th is if there are enough of these arms to occupy a destroyer what is going to protect the oil tanker.
6th Drones can be small enough so that the Aegis Combat System can only see them for about 30 miles. Using SM2's which cost about 2 million each would not be cost effective and the HELIOS Laser is not deployed yet. They have Loitering Munitions/Interceptors and Kinetic & Electronic Warfare but once again it only takes one drone getting through to make all of this too expensive in money and lives.
I could prob keep going.
Its asymmetric warfare something that even we have problems with re pretty much all war from Vietnam on.
The strait will stay closed for as long as Iran wants it to be.

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It last long enough and the world will open the straight, IRGC be damned EX500rider May 14 #5

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lol it's not a video game SamuelTheThird May 14 #10

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The fact this isn't being done should tell you something SamuelTheThird May 14 #13

Shortage is not the same thing as out of fuel and economy grinding to a stop EX500rider May 14 #14

The 1st question is how many missles, drones, airborne and seagoing can a CIWS and missles take care of? Eko May 15 #17

CIWZ would be the last line of defense- layered defense would be the object EX500rider May 15 #18

"Why would one ship being hit "stop the whole thing"?" Eko May 16 #19

Shouldn't be that hard to explain EX500rider May 16 #20

Sure, all that sounds good. Eko May 17 #21

also, Iran did not just do this. Eko May 17 #22

And why does that mean ships from Panama & the Philippines etc should get attacked? EX500rider May 17 #23

Feel free to show me where I said that. Eko May 17 #24

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No, those are facts. Eko Monday #26

And my opinion is some of those countries need to grow backbones EX500rider Monday #27

I dont see where ships from 20 plus countries have been attacked by Iran. Eko Tuesday #28

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A flag state of a vessel. Eko Tuesday #32

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It's not the point whether they have the military for any offensive actions EX500rider Tuesday #30

Its almost as if you dont know things and just say them before checking. Eko Tuesday #31

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Sure, Its not the bombing and the sinking of their ships and the killing of their people that will make them Eko Tuesday #36

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O..was just a thought Deuxcents May 14 #15

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