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H2O Man

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Mon Mar 16, 2026, 02:55 PM
Mar 2026

I've seen someone saying the "plan" involved taking control of Kharg island, when the battle ship coming from South Korea arrives. No, it's not ..... exactly for the reasons you outline. More, an amphibious landing would have to start out from Saudi Arabia's eastern coast, which is far enough away that it creates as high a risk as if they actually landed.

More, while the destruction escalates, both sides have been careful not to seriously damage the oil plants. The Saudis don't want that. The president is looking for an off-ramp, and it is not possible to say how all of this horror plays out. I think he will bluff about sending in troops, but hopefully not do so. Yet he did not learn the first lesson from our generation's war in Vietnam: one can win every battle, and still lose the war. Other culture's actions are not limited by our concepts of space and time, though this president surely is.

My fear -- and I'm interested in your and other opinions -- is that as Israel takes more damage as a direct result of Netanyahu's madness, will he resort to a nuke?

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There's a reason no other POTUS has given in to Netanyahu's wet dream before now ms liberty Mar 2026 #1
The resemblance of Trump to Hitler is uncanny MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #39
He did all his thinking with his gut EYESORE 9001 Mar 2026 #46
I see what you did there. returnee Mar 2026 #48
Credit goes to a movie -a rom-com even EYESORE 9001 Mar 2026 #101
Yea But modrepub Mar 2026 #47
Trump has had a taste of blood. thought crime Mar 2026 #84
What's to expect when Trump reportedly kept Mein Kamph by his bedside ??? Jack Valentino Mar 2026 #90
He's using the beginning of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" which gives you the fascist playbook. usonian Mar 2026 #100
I dont buy that; he's NEVER read anything except subpoenas & bankruptcy notices Callie1979 Mar 2026 #110
High on meds. "High Hitler". By the History Channel. usonian Mar 2026 #93
Fascinating MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #114
PRECISELY! some_of_us_are_sane Mar 2026 #66
Also don't forget; he has significant business interests in the Middle East now. thought crime Mar 2026 #85
Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin... Wounded Bear Mar 2026 #2
Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin... Wounded Bear Mar 2026 #3
So are brain cells of which he has perhaps three. efhmc Mar 2026 #5
And... 2naSalit Mar 2026 #36
You're likely BlueMTexpat Mar 2026 #107
I understand the scale of these bombings dwarf what Bush did in Iraq MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #40
Now that Trump has lifted popsdenver Mar 2026 #61
They are doing a lot of damage to Russia with their drones MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #75
I just read that Trump Blue_Roses Mar 2026 #89
Man that's how low Trump will sink to hurt everyone involved MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #105
Good point. Blue_Roses Mar 2026 #115
I'm reading that Ukraine has sent 200 drone experts to the Middle East MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #117
"You are a bonafide idiot. Try reading (ha) a book on naval history or talking to someone who is not a toady. efhmc Mar 2026 #4
"What?!? Read a Book?" MineralMan Mar 2026 #9
Thanks. Makes for a very sad, backward country. efhmc Mar 2026 #30
Is this a joke? Or did he actually say that? MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #41
Well, I never actually heard him say that. MineralMan Mar 2026 #55
OK, so it's fiction MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #76
See my edit above. MineralMan Mar 2026 #78
Isn't here some book he keeps right by his bed? thought crime Mar 2026 #86
Not a toady? GopherGal Mar 2026 #22
Thank you for the "toady" breakdown. I need to examine the concept better. efhmc Mar 2026 #28
Malignant narcissism is actually contagious MadameButterfly Mar 2026 #42
If they're defying Trump, someone should leak it leftstreet Mar 2026 #6
They're doing it very, very diplomatically. MineralMan Mar 2026 #14
He's getting mocked by world leaders leftstreet Mar 2026 #19
Exactly! MineralMan Mar 2026 #20
He and Bibi Rebl2 Mar 2026 #7
To his face? Yes SIR! underpants Mar 2026 #8
Well, right now, they are transforming their security briefing into a brightly colored comic book. Swede Mar 2026 #10
LOL! MineralMan Mar 2026 #15
Well I laughed too but Nittersing Mar 2026 #21
Sounds like they fully understand what they're dealing with. calimary Mar 2026 #43
He had a 'feeling'. So he went to war. IMPEACH NOW. spanone Mar 2026 #11
How? maxsolomon Mar 2026 #33
When the Democrats get control of the House thought crime Mar 2026 #87
He trapped the US armed forces...all Roc2020 Mar 2026 #12
Trapped himself, as well. MineralMan Mar 2026 #17
Yes he did. Roc2020 Mar 2026 #18
Yep. Pretty much. calimary Mar 2026 #44
I think they will either declare victory and walk away or nuke Iran thought crime Mar 2026 #91
Naval drones. That's why. Happy Hoosier Mar 2026 #13
Ehh...screw this ...let's go get us some Cuba... MiHale Mar 2026 #16
I'm trying to figure out why he is asking other countries? GusBob Mar 2026 #23
All of that. MineralMan Mar 2026 #25
Most have learned after Bush. republianmushroom Mar 2026 #56
LOL How clever do you have to be? thought crime Mar 2026 #92
I suspect reality has set in - a little Raven123 Mar 2026 #77
Has he asked Russia to join the coalition,yet? BattleRow Mar 2026 #81
Cornered animals most dangerous. Two ways out lostnfound Mar 2026 #24
3. The War with Iran is Over! WE WON, BIGLY! MineralMan Mar 2026 #26
My feeling exactly; could go either way. thought crime Mar 2026 #94
There are 3 US mine sweepers gab13by13 Mar 2026 #27
They were just in the gulf area, too... Red Mountain Mar 2026 #51
He'll do what he always does . . . Scubamatt Mar 2026 #29
I love it when REALITY catches up with ALTERNATIVE FACTS. ffr Mar 2026 #31
Good catch! Yes, that's what's happening. thought crime Mar 2026 #95
Agree LymphocyteLover Mar 2026 #32
Kick dalton99a Mar 2026 #34
Das Limpet? BidenRocks Mar 2026 #45
Limpet mines are real jmowreader Mar 2026 #54
Limpets JPK Mar 2026 #60
This is what happens LilElf70 Mar 2026 #35
Spam deleted by MIR Team gfarber Mar 2026 #37
Once again, NICE work! calimary Mar 2026 #50
I don't think it matters what they tell him. Xolodno Mar 2026 #38
He was really pissed when they refused to bomb hurricanes. Now this! thought crime Mar 2026 #96
Gut Feelings SusieCreamcheese Mar 2026 #49
And his "bone" spurs. Justice matters. Mar 2026 #59
Too late now, the Navy, and the entire military complex whould have refused to invade Iran Escurumbele Mar 2026 #52
Perhaps so, but most General officers would have a very hard MineralMan Mar 2026 #57
Bingo! Trump is Captain Queeg. But no mutiny. thought crime Mar 2026 #97
And the Idiot actually threatens NATO Cha Mar 2026 #53
Navy wants to get on the board when there is a fight OC375 Mar 2026 #58
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2026 #62
I remain hopeful that the TACO principle comes into effect. MineralMan Mar 2026 #65
My question too. Using a nuclear weapon would make Trump feel strong and famous. thought crime Mar 2026 #98
Yeah. H2O Man Mar 2026 #109
Netanyahu may be dead or incapacitated. John Farmer Mar 2026 #118
I've seen reports H2O Man Mar 2026 #120
Demented Donald and Petulant Pete think this is a video game. BarbD Mar 2026 #63
If I knew I wouldn't say, of course gulliver Mar 2026 #64
Iran still has their submarine fleet. Emile Mar 2026 #67
Yes. I do not know the current state of intelligence regarding MineralMan Mar 2026 #68
Persian Gulf not a good location for subs, too shallow EX500rider Mar 2026 #69
Iran's submarines are primarily based in the Straight of Hormuz. Emile Mar 2026 #70
Any ones not on the bottom. I imagine many got sunk dockside EX500rider Mar 2026 #71
So now you're admitting they do operate Emile Mar 2026 #72
Never said they didn't, just shallow seas are very bad areas for submarine combat operations EX500rider Mar 2026 #73
Only one submarine has been reported as destroyed. Emile Mar 2026 #111
Heck, Revolutionary Guard prospective martyrs John Farmer Mar 2026 #119
Last Thursday Krugman interviewed a military historian Old Crank Mar 2026 #74
Toll tintinvotes Mar 2026 #79
Oh boy, trump is going to hate that--it's right out of his playbook. C Moon Mar 2026 #103
K&R red dog 1 Mar 2026 #80
slow walking Maninacan Mar 2026 #82
You know what's so funny about this? Iran TOLD CHUMP that's exactly what they would do FakeNoose Mar 2026 #83
Doesn't matter. Trump will just dance to "In the Navy". Buttoneer Mar 2026 #88
Hopefully the USN made it clear to Trump that surface warships are missile magnets thought crime Mar 2026 #99
The chance he uses nukes JBTaurus83 Mar 2026 #102
Donald get shovels and start digging a new canal across the Emirates Peninsula thru Oman Historic NY Mar 2026 #104
What drugs is Donald on anyway? Aussie105 Mar 2026 #106
I don't know the exact words, but I know the generic term: DFW Mar 2026 #108
I guess he's in a Stait Jacket al bupp Mar 2026 #112
This important point is usually omitted. Bluetus Mar 2026 #113
US Navy no longer has escort ships Kaleva Mar 2026 #116
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