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Stargleamer

(2,666 posts) Sun Feb 1, 2026, 04:15 PM 10 hrs ago

Alex Pretti's murderers are identified as Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez [View all]

BREAKING: The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.
— ProPublica (@propublica.org) 2026-02-01T21:10:18.072Z

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Alex Pretti's murderers are identified as Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez [View all] Stargleamer 10 hrs ago OP

Hope they die in state prison malaise 10 hrs ago #1

state prison ? dweller 9 hrs ago #28

State charges, not federal. Swede 6 hrs ago #73

Finally. May there be justice for Pretti. ...n/t CaliforniaPeggy 10 hrs ago #2

plus 1 BlueWaveNeverEnd 9 hrs ago #24

May they reap what they have sowed a thousandfold. fierywoman 10 hrs ago #3

What? I was expecting their names to be Lon Butcher and Earl Dingess. Duncan Grant 10 hrs ago #4

I was thinking the same thing. PittBlue 10 hrs ago #5

I saw a screenshot of the one guy's eyes... Ritabert 9 hrs ago #12

It is profitable. Marcuse 8 hrs ago #42

I guess DEI doesn't apply to Ice vapor2 7 hrs ago #59

Latino? Aviation Pro 10 hrs ago #6

Sounds like it from the surnames for starters. Also the recent one, DUI "covered in vomit" - so UTUSN 9 hrs ago #16

White supremacy is a little more complicated than that WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #20

The proud boys guy was cuban, they don't think they're latin. dem4decades 5 hrs ago #76

The right wing will be less likely to defend them JI7 10 hrs ago #7

I wonder what their immigration status is. This whole thing is so stupid and people are getting killed. Srkdqltr 10 hrs ago #8

You do realize there are Latinos in this country iemanja 8 hrs ago #45

Yes i am aware they were here first, particularly in the south and west. There was always people here before. Srkdqltr 8 hrs ago #49

Then why would you make that comment about immigration status? iemanja 7 hrs ago #56

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Illegal aliens can't join the military. It requires an SSN surfered 5 hrs ago #79

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This surfered 5 hrs ago #82

Thank you. It is stupid for any of us to equate names with character. erronis 8 hrs ago #53

Don't agree with the poor write trash talk iemanja 7 hrs ago #57

Agree. I got carried away by trying to find an anti analogy. erronis 7 hrs ago #61

All good. iemanja 7 hrs ago #65

True susanr516 7 hrs ago #63

Oinc oinc, putas. LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #9

Fucking Murdering Shit for brains Cha 10 hrs ago #10

The irony Jilly_in_VA 10 hrs ago #11

I suspect they headed down I-35 and are somewhere in Texas Ritabert 9 hrs ago #13

They should be in custody MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #15

"The DEI hires made a bad decision" dalton99a 9 hrs ago #14

Twenty years of experience between them. Training isn't the issue. Abolish it all. WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #17

20 years a experience where? On the southern border? GusBob 6 hrs ago #71

20 years of fulfilling the mission of CBP. This is what it looks like, no matter where they serve. WhiskeyGrinder 6 hrs ago #72

The problem with poorly trained or well trained Nazis isn't the level of training--it's that they are Nazis. tblue37 5 hrs ago #80

Have they been charged with anything yet? Has Jonathan Ross? n/t flvegan 9 hrs ago #18

Nope. dalton99a 9 hrs ago #19

no and they won't be charged with anything as lnog as Bondi heads the DOJ Takket 9 hrs ago #21

After seeing their names I think there is a chance they could be charged JI7 9 hrs ago #23

I have to on the side that says BULLSHIT. I'm betting there are MORE shooters than this. ALSO bluestarone 9 hrs ago #22

I can tell by the one shooter's eyes if they publish a picture without the balaclava Ritabert 9 hrs ago #31

Well, let us know what you think if you see it. bluestarone 8 hrs ago #34

Maybe ICE is hiring goons from the Mexican druggers. I mean really, leftyladyfrommo 9 hrs ago #25

And you conclude that because they are Hispanic iemanja 8 hrs ago #52

This right here........ Takket 9 hrs ago #26

Consider the level of cognitive dissonance needed.... Ritabert 9 hrs ago #27

Preserving and enforcing white supremacy LuvLoogie 5 hrs ago #78

Quislings? johnp3907 9 hrs ago #29

They just don't contemplate that they could be picked up too Ritabert 9 hrs ago #30

Probably former military, poverty draft. CBP hired in 2014 and 2018? haele 8 hrs ago #37

That's not what the link stated MichMan 8 hrs ago #44

My fault for not reading the article. haele 7 hrs ago #64

Statement from ex-wife, Angelica Ochoa: (from the ProPublica article) IcyPeas 8 hrs ago #32

EX-wife. n/t Ms. Toad 8 hrs ago #41

Correct... fixed. IcyPeas 7 hrs ago #54

"identified in government records"? surrealAmerican 8 hrs ago #33

So Stephen MIller, whose immigrant grandparents fled pogroms against Jews in Russia, Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #35

Self hate Cirsium 8 hrs ago #38

I just finished watching the documentary on HBO "Let us Prey." It goes some way to explaining that horror. Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #39

Identification with the Aggressor Cirsium 8 hrs ago #46

That's a powerful excerpt and can easily be used by "state" forces to subjugate. 1984. 2026. erronis 7 hrs ago #66

Look around. The lesson is, B.See 8 hrs ago #40

Stephen Miller isn't doing this to gain acceptance. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #55

I'm not so much concerned B.See 7 hrs ago #58

Of course Cirsium 8 hrs ago #36

SAY THEIR NAMES..... Escape 8 hrs ago #43

The least safest place for them will be in prison JoseBalow 7 hrs ago #62

Okey Dokey Escape 7 hrs ago #67

I'll wait for the result of Minnesota's investigation, thanks struggle4progress 8 hrs ago #47

As sinkingfeeling mentioned on another thread, I wonder if this is for real paleotn 8 hrs ago #48

CBP Killing Fields Of Southern Border 2na fisherman 8 hrs ago #50

They aren't used to "social justice, hipster, progressive urban" protesters. LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #74

Indict, prosecute, convict and imprison these murderers Mysterian 8 hrs ago #51

With those names, shouldn't Trump be jumping to conclusions that this can be blamed on DEI? Norrrm 7 hrs ago #60

If so, perhaps it's to help them blend in. usonian 7 hrs ago #68

Holy Batshit! Give Peace A Chance 7 hrs ago #69

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That's what Trump thinks surfered 4 hrs ago #84

Kapos! mucifer 7 hrs ago #70

White American thugs don't have a corner on being killers and torturers. Ping Tung 5 hrs ago #75