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angrychair

(11,582 posts)
9. I did a deep dive on this yesterday
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:37 PM
Nov 25

Obviously not a lawyer so I had to keep pulling threads the further I went into it.

The executive summary is that it's a shit sandwich.
Mango Mussolini has immunity from criminal conviction in the performance of his duties. Not anyone else.

So when it comes to refusing to follow orders you believe are illegal, it's always going to be something that will have to be worked out after the fact.
Example: I am your commander and order you to do thing x and you truly believe that order is illegal. I tell you it is legal because it came from our president. You say "no, it's illegal" I release you from your duties, likely go to the brig and face a general court martial hearing.
But the proof is completely on the (soldier, airman, sailor or marine) to prove their case as to why it's illegal.
If they are wrong, they could get kicked out of the military, demoted or jailed or all three

If they are right, it was illegal but do it anyway, then they could be put on trial for crimes against humanity later.

Like I said, shit sandwich.

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It is because Trump thinks his word is law. drray23 Nov 25 #1
Trump thinks the same in kairos12 Nov 25 #4
Trump thinks? calimary Nov 25 #19
Couldn't Trump claim since the SCOTUS gave him complete immunity. doc03 Nov 25 #2
I was just wondering what does Official Act and Immunity mean in today's world. Zackzzzz Nov 25 #3
There is no definition - Here's a potential starter that I've floated several times without any traction dickthegrouch Nov 25 #5
I did a deep dive on this yesterday angrychair Nov 25 #9
Sure seems like a shit sandwich to me. calimary Nov 25 #20
Not that any order he gives is lawful, per se Easterncedar Nov 25 #7
Also he can never be sued by a private citizen (or group of citizens) FakeNoose Nov 25 #11
SCOTUS never gave immunity to members of the military or any other entity. nt Trueblue Texan Nov 26 #24
But how can it be an illegal order if the President can't give an illegal order. Like Nixon said doc03 Nov 26 #27
moron Skittles Nov 25 #6
This is some heavy duty gaslighting William Seger Nov 25 #8
Shit for brains can't read. Historic NY Nov 25 #10
Their outrage proves that they know Trump has already issued illegal orders, tanyev Nov 25 #12
I think you summed it up perfectly. sheshe2 Nov 25 #13
Did the orange shitstain REALLY post that? Martin Eden Nov 25 #14
Drumpf is an Illiterate Idiot! jybarz Nov 25 #15
Brava! That's Senator Kelly's Cha Nov 25 #16
As Alfred E Neuman once said in National Lampoon BidenRocks Nov 25 #17
Thanks all for your response. Zackzzzz Nov 25 #18
I'm really beginning to believe trump can't read Figarosmom Nov 25 #21
I agree with you on the comprehension problems. sheshe2 Nov 26 #23
Kind of amazing that the SlobFather actually gets more ignorant every day. NoMoreRepugs Nov 25 #22
The supreme courts decision that Trump is immune from prosecution for crimes committed while president Gary 50 Nov 26 #25
Bottom line..... democrank Nov 26 #26
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