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Ocelot II

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Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:17 PM 10 hrs ago

How Trump nearly killed off NATO in his first term, by the former Secretary General. [View all]

It's even worse then we thought at the time.

Talking about Russia, Trump suddenly exclaimed, “But why can’t you guys in Nato join us in Korea? They’re developing nuclear weapons, and that’s something we can’t accept.”

A couple of months earlier, North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, had declared that preparations for the testing of an intercontinental nuclear missile were now in their final stage; this announcement was followed by the firing of medium-range missiles, which landed in the Sea of Japan. So Trump bringing up North Korea wasn’t completely out of the blue. But I was unsure as to what he meant. Did he want Nato to intervene in North Korea?

“Mr President, all the allies are concerned about the nuclear weapons, but I don’t think there will be any support for bombing North Korea,” I said.

“But you’re in Afghanistan. Why can’t you be in North Korea?” he replied, before the conversation swiftly moved on. We touched on terrorism and Islamic State, of course, with Trump declaring, “We have to kill them, we have to bomb them, they’re really evil people.”


It's all downhill from there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/04/im-leaving-trump-said-theres-no-reason-to-be-here-any-more-inside-the-meeting-that-brought-nato-to-the-brink?
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