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lostincalifornia

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2. This whole tragedy could have been avoided if Hamas never ordered October 7, and

Reply to misanthrope (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:02 PM

17 hrs ago

Even after October 7th, if they released the hostages and laid down their arms, much of the death and destruction could have been avoided.

What did they accomplish with October 7?

60000 Palestinian’s are dead, at least 1200+ Israelis are dead, they contributed to trump’s win, and the fate of a two-state solution is very uncertain.

Was it worth all those lives Hamas?

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Hamas agrees to release hostages [View all] misanthrope 17 hrs ago OP

I wouldn't trust anything Netanyahu or his sidekick Trump says. walkingman 17 hrs ago #1

It's not Trump or Netanyahu claiming that Mossfern 17 hrs ago #5

The continuing negotiations is what I mean. I am glad to see the hostages released walkingman 16 hrs ago #10

This whole tragedy could have been avoided if Hamas never ordered October 7, and lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #2

It was for Netanyahu misanthrope 16 hrs ago #9

I can hear Netanyahu now. usonian 17 hrs ago #3

As well they should TheProle 17 hrs ago #4

Agreed Mossfern 17 hrs ago #6

No they don't. And trump will be given credit for this. I hope those lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #7

Of course they're happy, this is what their ultimate goal was. Lancero 16 hrs ago #11

My prediction is they won't release them Arazi 17 hrs ago #8

There's a following clause, though, that makes this conditioned on other things. Igel 14 hrs ago #12

Lucy holding that football. Johnny2X2X 12 hrs ago #13

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Eat a steak, put the bone on your GOAT shrine, and say a thousand Epsteins for contrition. You'll feel better. nt Bernardo de La Paz 12 hrs ago #15

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You are wrong. Nothing will come of it. Your Faux Noise feed deceives you. Hamas has made extra demands. nt Bernardo de La Paz 12 hrs ago #17

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I have zero confidence in the sincerity of Hamas or Netanyahu Maru Kitteh 12 hrs ago #19