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64. It's actually illegal to look at the paper ballots in Florida

Reply to Kaleva (Reply #57)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:05 PM

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By law they can only be counted by machine

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BOMBSHELL CLAIM: TRUMP DID NOT WIN 2024, ELECTION MANIPULATED [View all] CNYHarris 22 hrs ago OP

Auditing could be too late CNYHarris 22 hrs ago #1

WOW John Coktosten 22 hrs ago #2

Trump wants to ban mail in ballots CNYHarris 22 hrs ago #3

No, you can't call the voter to see true voter intent. Ms. Toad 20 hrs ago #75

Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #4

I won't ever believe he was elected. BurnDoubt 22 hrs ago #5

I've never believed it either BonnieJW 21 hrs ago #36

And (correct me if I'm wrong here); robbob 20 hrs ago #81

The closest swing state was Wisconsin... SickOfTheOnePct 19 hrs ago #94

Ok, I guess it was just another internet rumour. robbob 13 hrs ago #143

No RandySF 22 hrs ago #6

It was rigged from the start 31st Street Bridge 22 hrs ago #7

I believe we have to focus on your concern. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #82

Most definately. Very evident when you have precincts that voted all democrat with Trump for president. LiberalArkie 19 hrs ago #91

I have thought this since the election took place. Trump was thanking Musk for the use of his computers. OLDMDDEM 22 hrs ago #8

I watched about half of this creeksneakers2 22 hrs ago #9

if only NJCher 21 hrs ago #11

OK, I'll watch the rest creeksneakers2 21 hrs ago #18

I watched the rest creeksneakers2 21 hrs ago #38

Voting machines are not programmed with lots of people around questionseverything 20 hrs ago #60

Yes, they are. creeksneakers2 23 min ago #160

I gave up on this kind of fact-free clickbait long ago. Good on you Maru Kitteh 18 hrs ago #122

That's the problem for more exposure lildDemz 21 hrs ago #39

Yeah, it's funny how the conspiracy theorists who make these videos... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #14

I understood that what they do, which I have to assume they do before they open the doors for the public, is Escurumbele 21 hrs ago #19

For that to work... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #21

Follow the tabulators Doremus 20 hrs ago #58

In Virginia... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #63

Do you understand, you can't see software? questionseverything 20 hrs ago #67

Having been a computer programmer ... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #69

Not if a predetermined result was programmed in at the factory questionseverything 20 hrs ago #71

I'm saying ... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #77

Musk knew that the Central Tabulators and Operating Systems of E.S.&E and Dominion Voting Systems had Botany 18 hrs ago #120

No state uses a single set of "central tabulators" to count all of the state's vote... SickOfTheOnePct 18 hrs ago #121

The flipping of votes from Harris to Trump and or the deletions of Harris votes were not pre programed into Botany 18 hrs ago #124

But for all of the tabulators... SickOfTheOnePct 18 hrs ago #129

Musk by passed the internet with his use of Starlink and DTC .... direct to cell .... in getting data from and or ... Botany 17 hrs ago #133

There's no cell phone connection either. n/t Ms. Toad 17 hrs ago #135

Your post brought up some issues I remember from... Chemical Bill 17 hrs ago #132

I'm an election worker and that can't be done Kaleva 21 hrs ago #30

Same n/t SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #35

Observer for more than a decade - same. Ms. Toad 10 hrs ago #148

It would not be that easy. creeksneakers2 21 hrs ago #41

Thank you for adding some reason and reality to this discussion AverageOldGuy 19 hrs ago #84

How it was done is not the first question. returnee 19 hrs ago #85

when all is said and done NJCher 21 hrs ago #10

The last legitimate win for a republican for POTUS was in 1956 and in every case starting with Nixon in '68 Botany 21 hrs ago #22

Bush v. Gore being a classic example Ritabert 21 hrs ago #40

What Botany said! yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #88

2024, 2016, 2004, 2000 yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #87

Election deniers get old. Silent Type 21 hrs ago #12

I guess we love our country more than NJCher 21 hrs ago #25

Nah, it's just kind of a sad spectacle at this point. Just like 9/11 truthers, moon landing deniers, tritsofme 21 hrs ago #26

you always have the same comment NJCher 21 hrs ago #29

Yes, I happen to exist in the reality based community. tritsofme 21 hrs ago #32

common answer, again NJCher 12 hrs ago #145

Until the facts change, the comment doesn't need to change EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #95

again NJCher 12 hrs ago #146

LOL. Silent Type 20 hrs ago #46

Everybody gets old if they're lucky. returnee 19 hrs ago #89

The Election Truth Alliance is garbage EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #13

Grifting grifters are going to grift gullible rubes, that is a given. tritsofme 21 hrs ago #16

explain it, then NJCher 21 hrs ago #28

I'm not the one making the unsupported conspiracy theory EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #100

strictly your opinion NJCher 12 hrs ago #144

You Already Know What i'm Going To Say Mr.Bee 21 hrs ago #15

Well, Democrats better do something about it because it will only get worst for the 2026 and 2028 elections. Escurumbele 21 hrs ago #17

Supposing for a moment their claims are true EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #20

Because AZJonnie 21 hrs ago #33

Given it would require actors all over the country, including Democrats, nope. EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #103

Did you watch the show? AZJonnie 19 hrs ago #107

We already know. live love laugh 21 hrs ago #23

Doesn't really matter at this point does it? BlueTsunami2018 21 hrs ago #24

Interesting stuff, I will look forward to the follow-up interview AZJonnie 21 hrs ago #27

You're missing the bit about the swing states using paper ballots Abnredleg 21 hrs ago #42

I hope it did not sound like I was conveying that I thought the CT presented by the guest was LIKELY AZJonnie 19 hrs ago #98

And how many check vote ballots do they run in their test. Less than 500? Festivito 1 hr ago #155

It's not that past a certain threshold all votes were recorded for *rump questionseverything 20 hrs ago #49

Depends on recounting paper ballots. We're not allowed to recount paper ballots. Festivito 21 hrs ago #31

Paper ballots are counted during risk limiting audits /nt Abnredleg 21 hrs ago #43

No they aren't, a small sample are counted not even an entire precinct questionseverything 20 hrs ago #50

Yes, it is understood that audits work off samples Abnredleg 20 hrs ago #52

Counting paper ballots openly and transparently would work too questionseverything 20 hrs ago #56

The audits are done in front of observers Abnredleg 20 hrs ago #61

No one is suggesting counting the entire county at once questionseverything 20 hrs ago #66

I've yet to find an election official of either party Abnredleg 20 hrs ago #72

Democracy demands transparency for the average citizen so questionseverything 20 hrs ago #79

All parties have observers watching every step of the process Abnredleg 19 hrs ago #90

Full public view means, where the public can see questionseverything 19 hrs ago #97

There is a reason no election officials support hand counts Abnredleg 19 hrs ago #99

*rump's people were trying to cause crap, I simply want transparency questionseverything 19 hrs ago #106

Abnredleg, you make some misleading/false statements. Festivito 2 hrs ago #154

The green obnoxiousdrunk 21 hrs ago #34

Please Watch This Video ... kooth 21 hrs ago #37

Does it explain how they got around the audits Abnredleg 21 hrs ago #45

I remain malaise 21 hrs ago #44

He brings up some good points, the data look quite suspicious, but there is no Fil1957 20 hrs ago #47

Do you want a Smoking Gun? Botany 20 hrs ago #54

How would they know which ballot to toss? Kaleva 20 hrs ago #57

It's actually illegal to look at the paper ballots in Florida questionseverything 20 hrs ago #64

Same in Michigan Kaleva 18 hrs ago #128

It's not that they are tossing ballots questionseverything 9 hrs ago #153

But the person I had responded to said the voter had voted Kaleva 1 hr ago #157

But the person I had responded to said the voter had voted Kaleva 1 hr ago #158

Peter Thiel's Palantir was and is very good at running large batch files of data and democratic leaning voters Botany 20 hrs ago #65

But how do you match the ballot with the dem leaning voter? Kaleva 17 hrs ago #130

I. D. K. Botany 17 hrs ago #134

The point is they are publishing results that are inaccurate questionseverything 16 hrs ago #136

Voter suppression is well documented going back to the 2000 presidential election. My point is that as long there are Fil1957 19 hrs ago #101

I disagree with you but in a nice way. Botany 18 hrs ago #118

I, 100% agree about that 30% bluestarone 18 hrs ago #123

And call me a conspiracy nut but I think the planned and calculated crippling of education helps in the .. Botany 18 hrs ago #126

Man, you got that right! bluestarone 18 hrs ago #127

Oy Vey DemocratSinceBirth 20 hrs ago #48

This is NOT a both sides do it situation. Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #51

We could count the paper ballots openly and transparently questionseverything 20 hrs ago #55

There's a reason why fraud cases have to be " pled with particularity" Abnredleg 20 hrs ago #59

Can I prove there was cheating? No. Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #68

Sure, you can find statistical arguments to support your claim Abnredleg 20 hrs ago #76

The evidence presented answers most questions that might be brought up. Buddyzbuddy 16 hrs ago #137

My skepticism comes from decades of government IT Abnredleg 16 hrs ago #139

I appreciate your experience and knowledge. Buddyzbuddy 15 hrs ago #141

The delays due to bombs were made up Abnredleg 14 hrs ago #142

Very compelling facts, thank you. Buddyzbuddy 10 hrs ago #147

Statistics can be manipulated, that's why risk limiting audits are worthless questionseverything 19 hrs ago #109

Different type of statistical analysis Abnredleg 18 hrs ago #114

lol, ok , so your statistics good, election integrity statistics bad questionseverything 18 hrs ago #116

The statistical methods used to select random samples Abnredleg 15 hrs ago #140

See post #71 questionseverything 10 hrs ago #151

These graphs aren't "statistics". They are actual votes. The graphs aren't BComplex 1 hr ago #156

Well said. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #96

C'mon everybody, no two or more people would ever agree in secret to break the law Gaugamela 20 hrs ago #53

I know! Right? That's why there's NO SUCH WORD!!! "Conspiracy"! No such word. BComplex 1 hr ago #159

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow 20 hrs ago #62

Uh oh---gatekeepers not liking this one at all. Kingofalldems 20 hrs ago #70

Bev Harris? madinmaryland 20 hrs ago #73

"I just want to find 11,780, uh, votes." Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #74

Whatever became of the claim here there were a couple of counties in New York where Harris did not receive a single vote Gimpyknee 20 hrs ago #78

The county is fighting tooth and nail to make sure regular human beings don't get to count those ballots questionseverything 19 hrs ago #104

The judge in the Rockland County, New York lawsuit has until November 8 to decide annielion 19 hrs ago #112

Pure clickbait... but without the ALL CAPS YELLOW IMPACT FONT, and a YELLOW ARROW pointing at Trump. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #80

Bull. n/t returnee 19 hrs ago #92

Could we please stop this "Trump did not win in 2024" bullshit??? AverageOldGuy 20 hrs ago #83

Good luck with that. This seems to be unlikely. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #119

Thanks for your service as an election worker dwayneb 16 hrs ago #138

Yup. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #86

Computer voting systems are always hackable. Always. annielion 19 hrs ago #93

I got tired of being yelled at for linking the unbelievable evidence Eliot Rosewater 19 hrs ago #102

I would call the "evidence" not believable v. unbelievable n/t SickOfTheOnePct 19 hrs ago #105

I believe Statitstics, Numbers and Math Mr.Bee 19 hrs ago #108

My two cents? MAGA has B.See 19 hrs ago #113

Especially when the piece of shit himself announces before the election that his friend musk knows those voting machine Eliot Rosewater 18 hrs ago #115

Here Eliot Rosewater 18 hrs ago #117

Perhaps not as amazed as you might think. B.See 17 hrs ago #131

Not a thread on this? Seriously? Offhand, I can recall a number of them posted niyad 19 hrs ago #110

Three parts make sure to watch them all. No it isn't a comedian making the claim Eliot Rosewater 19 hrs ago #111

Trump fans not liking this thread one bit. Kingofalldems 18 hrs ago #125

Post removed Post removed 10 hrs ago #150

Whatcha got against Halloween? berniesandersmittens 10 hrs ago #152

There was no fix. The Right Wing Controls the Media. Americans Are Stupid. MAGA is a cult. Simple as that. NT Blasphemer 10 hrs ago #149