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lostincalifornia

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Mon Sep 22, 2025, 07:04 AM Sep 22

Winner of mRNA Nobel Prize says ACIP member's claim that Covid vaccines persist is "absolutely impossible [View all]

"On Thursday and Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention held a meeting of its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a key panel that gives the CDC’s director guidance about what vaccines to recommend to the public.

The panel, in the end, postponed its most controversial vote and made recommendations that seemed aimed at fostering doubts about the Covid-19 vaccines while still keeping them widely available. But some presenters and panelists raised concerns that the mRNA Covid vaccines – the ones made by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech – may have unconfirmed safety issues.

In particular, Retsef Levi, who chairs ACIP’s working group on Covid vaccines, raised concerns that mRNA, the lipid nanoparticles they are encapsulated in, and the spike protein the vaccines produce may all persist and be widely distributed in the body. He also said they may provoke an immune response that is not understood and could even change the way the body reads its own genetic material. Moderna and Pfizer said that the claims were refuted by well-done studies that met global regulatory standards."

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"What these people do, is that they search, they find one paper or two papers that make an outlandish claim based on bad data that hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of other papers refute, they don’t mention everything that refutes it. They only mention, oh, look, I found a paper that says spike is around for nine months! It’s just not true."

https://www.statnews.com/2025/09/20/drew-weissman-nobel-prize-mrna-covid-vaccines-rebuts-retsef-levi-claims/

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You can't cite scientific facts to these morons. Gimpyknee Sep 22 #1
weary poozwah Sep 22 #3
+1. They are willfully ignorant and proud of it. dalton99a Sep 22 #15
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As Trump has said publicly popsdenver Sep 22 #24
Ironically, it's the COVID virus itself that "provokes an immune response that is not understood." yardwork Sep 22 #2
Yes! That has always been so aggravating that these morons couldn't understand or didn't want to understand LymphocyteLover Sep 22 #5
Also aggravating was so many thinking that we could go through a global pandemic killing travelingthrulife Sep 22 #18
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what flavour pizza ? niyad Sep 22 #7
I missed it! Did she mention me by name? yardwork Sep 22 #20
No, she was doing her insane anti-covid vaccine rant. niyad Sep 22 #21
Damn. I prefer the off-base personal attacks. yardwork Sep 22 #25
Well, she did start off with "you're stupid", directed to the OP. niyad Sep 22 #30
First post, huh? flvegan Sep 22 #8
one of our resident trolls, no doubt. niyad Sep 22 #11
No doubt BumRushDaShow Sep 22 #13
But of course. Are we taking bets on how many times she shows up today? niyad Sep 22 #16
First time today BumRushDaShow Sep 22 #17
Goodness, I missed all of them! niyad Sep 22 #19
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Apparently she came back, judging by the twe removals further downthread. niyad Sep 22 #29
That was her 5th appearance today BumRushDaShow Sep 22 #31
Geeeee, and I missed her. Wonder if I hurt her widdle fee fees? niyad Sep 22 #32
That would have definitely been needed! BumRushDaShow Sep 22 #34
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yawnnnnn. right on schedule niyad Sep 22 #9
Bye Bye 👋 Celerity Sep 22 #10
Exactly Rebl2 Sep 22 #33
this administration uses the opposite of science for what they do. They have a pre-determined LymphocyteLover Sep 22 #4
K&R UTUSN Sep 22 #12
Kick dalton99a Sep 22 #14
Unfortunately, markodochartaigh Sep 22 #26
Who you gonna listen to? The Nobel Prize guy or the guy who picks up a dead bear and dumps it in Central Park? Midnight Writer Sep 22 #27
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