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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWinner of mRNA Nobel Prize says ACIP member's claim that Covid vaccines persist is "absolutely impossible
"On Thursday and Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention held a meeting of its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a key panel that gives the CDCs director guidance about what vaccines to recommend to the public.
The panel, in the end, postponed its most controversial vote and made recommendations that seemed aimed at fostering doubts about the Covid-19 vaccines while still keeping them widely available. But some presenters and panelists raised concerns that the mRNA Covid vaccines the ones made by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech may have unconfirmed safety issues.
In particular, Retsef Levi, who chairs ACIPs working group on Covid vaccines, raised concerns that mRNA, the lipid nanoparticles they are encapsulated in, and the spike protein the vaccines produce may all persist and be widely distributed in the body. He also said they may provoke an immune response that is not understood and could even change the way the body reads its own genetic material. Moderna and Pfizer said that the claims were refuted by well-done studies that met global regulatory standards."
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"What these people do, is that they search, they find one paper or two papers that make an outlandish claim based on bad data that hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of other papers refute, they dont mention everything that refutes it. They only mention, oh, look, I found a paper that says spike is around for nine months! Its just not true."
https://www.statnews.com/2025/09/20/drew-weissman-nobel-prize-mrna-covid-vaccines-rebuts-retsef-levi-claims/

Gimpyknee
(714 posts)in spite of all the evidence showing the effectiveness of vaccines, they persist in supporting these theories which hinder the efforts of legitimate scientists. science, not sighence.
dalton99a
(90,414 posts)Response to dalton99a (Reply #15)
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popsdenver
(533 posts)time and time again................."I LOVE THE UN-EDUCATED VOTERS"
yardwork
(68,145 posts)These people are beyond stupid. They are criminally stupid. They have a profit motive.
LymphocyteLover
(8,804 posts)that the virus infection was ALWAYS WAY worse than the vaccination.
travelingthrulife
(3,355 posts)millions without any impact to our economy and personal lives.
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niyad
(127,525 posts)yardwork
(68,145 posts)niyad
(127,525 posts)yardwork
(68,145 posts)They're more entertaining.
niyad
(127,525 posts)flvegan
(65,301 posts)niyad
(127,525 posts)BumRushDaShow
(160,747 posts)But she was (personally) taken care of.
niyad
(127,525 posts)BumRushDaShow
(160,747 posts)and twice yesterday, but 5 times the day before. It's a New Moon, so that impacts it too.
niyad
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niyad
(127,525 posts)BumRushDaShow
(160,747 posts)Was wondering if she would run into you again.
niyad
(127,525 posts)Seems fitting that I was actually out shopping for pest removal items!
BumRushDaShow
(160,747 posts)
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niyad
(127,525 posts)Celerity
(52,142 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,804 posts)conclusion and use any data possible even made up, to support it, while throwing out contradictory data.
UTUSN
(75,825 posts)dalton99a
(90,414 posts)markodochartaigh
(4,161 posts)another way that the covid vaccines don't persist is in public availability. Here in Florida they were briefly available at CVS last week. By the time that I found out and tried to get an appointment they were pulled due to the state's regulations. Now neither Publix, CVS, nor Walgreens know when or if they will have them again.
Midnight Writer
(24,774 posts)If you are MAGA, you have to go with the dead bear guy or risk excommunication or worse.