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gulliver

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75. The show where he doesn't tone it down is a different show.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2025, 01:06 PM

Sep 20

I don't like what happened to late night "talk shows." Johnny, Dave, Conan, Jay did talk shows. The new shows, where the monologues are often just diatribes, are not talk shows. They're diatribe shows.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's what ABC or any major network can sell through their affiliates. Kimmel, whom I find very funny and intelligent (but watch only in YouTube clips), needs to do a talk show if he's going to be on ABC. Otherwise, the loss of revenue from doing a diatribe show (and alienating affiliates and their customers) is an impact on workers' incomes and stockholders' 401(k)s.

I like what Conan and Dave have done lately. I like what Bill Maher has always done. Kimmel can do the same. Edgy is good. I just don't think it's good on legacy media networks. The traditional talk show may be a goner.

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CNN again reporting that ABC wants Kimmel back [View all] senseandsensibility Sep 19 OP

Tone it down? C_U_L8R Sep 19 #1

Trump can revoke licenses MadameButterfly Sep 19 #4

Broadcast licenses C_U_L8R Sep 19 #7

Broadcasts won't end MadameButterfly Sep 19 #9

Rachel is cable, Trump's FCC can't (directly) touch her C_U_L8R Sep 19 #12

Wow, I didn't know to make that distinction MadameButterfly Sep 19 #14

That's how Fux Nooze gets away with all their shenanigans mdbl Sep 19 #49

Absolutely BigMin28 Sep 19 #31

YES! nt! maddiemom Sep 19 #45

Not really. He can threaten, but the chances of actually being able to do it are tiny Wiz Imp Sep 19 #35

The FCC can revoke affiliates' licenses dflprincess Sep 19 #52

It isn't about licensing, which he can't do anyway, it is about approving mergers. lostincalifornia Sep 19 #55

Here's hoping the Charlie Kirk tribute TheFarseer Sep 19 #67

I think they are trying to say to be more like Carson, Letterman, Leno, and Conan Polybius Sep 19 #38

I miss Carson & Leno SickOfTheOnePct Sep 19 #56

Then chump happened! BidenRocks Sep 19 #59

Trump didn't force late night SickOfTheOnePct Sep 19 #61

100% Polybius Sep 19 #66

Tone it down --- azureblue Sep 19 #62

Tone it down? Freddie Sep 19 #2

I think the thing he got fired for was pretty toned down MadameButterfly Sep 19 #5

remember when Dave Chappelle said fuck it, quit his show and went to Africa? CatWoman Sep 19 #3

Don't remember Democrats coming to Chappelle's defense. His comments were disgusting, but still. . . . . Silent Type Sep 19 #10

Huh? SamuelTheThird Sep 19 #15

Let's be hones, he was also bashed mercilessly by Democrats. Probably deserved it, but still. Silent Type Sep 19 #17

No he wasn't SamuelTheThird Sep 19 #18

Finally, you admit he was bashed. I have not once said FCC was right. You are confused. Silent Type Sep 19 #21

He was criticized? So what SamuelTheThird Sep 19 #25

either he is completely confused and/or is trying to start something CatWoman Sep 19 #33

Which Democrats? Was it elected officials or heads of agencies, or just viewers who happened to be Democratic leaning? Crunchy Frog Sep 19 #68

Boy, talk about a point completely flying over someone's head CatWoman Sep 19 #19

Video of Dave C criticizing "liberal's outrage reflex." Silent Type Sep 19 #24

Fox news is your go-to? SamuelTheThird Sep 19 #28

It's a video. If you don't like that one, the same video is on other sites. Silent Type Sep 19 #34

we are talking before and after Comedy Central CatWoman Sep 19 #29

You are, I'm talking about Dave Chappelle being tarred and feathered. Silent Type Sep 19 #30

Yep. A-Schwarzenegger Sep 19 #69

First of all that is from 2022 Wiz Imp Sep 19 #39

Was the US government threatening snd censoring him? boston bean Sep 19 #13

from my post CatWoman Sep 19 #22

Again, where is the gov't censhorship. boston bean Sep 19 #50

yes i do and i never once said or implied "govt" censorship CatWoman Sep 20 #73

The difference is major. It is not some minor difference. boston bean Sep 20 #74

Kimmel should be in Italy by now. thought crime Sep 20 #70

If Anything, It's Time to Amp It Up ! MrWowWow Sep 19 #6

Huh? Mike Nelson Sep 19 #8

As you point out, this is just absurd underpants Sep 19 #27

NBC's The Tonight Show created a product that ABC & CBS have been chasing for decades underpants Sep 19 #11

Steve Allen Cirsium Sep 19 #47

There are some great video clips from the Steve Allen Show. thought crime Sep 20 #71

I forgot Steve Allen. underpants Sep 20 #72

Agreed - although I would guess the expensive late night talk show will probably not exist within a decade. Midwestern Democrat Sep 19 #58

His FIRST condition should be NO KIRK program in HIS time slot!! bluestarone Sep 19 #16

The Kirk program is being aired by Sinclair tonight. Wiz Imp Sep 19 #40

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Sep 19 #44

No way should he tone it down. If anything he should tone it up. Crunchy Frog Sep 19 #20

I HOPE HE NEVER SAYS "I'm sorry". He EVER DOES THAT, I SWEAR TO GAWD I WILL NEVER WATCH OR LISTEN TO a kennedy Sep 19 #23

Hope he tells ABC to get bent. Ocelot II Sep 19 #26

They should put the show back on the air... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 19 #32

"Omigosh! Us has gots no idea how this happen! We was just funning him! struggle4progress Sep 19 #36

Wonder How The Ratings Are For 🍊 💩 Repacements? WiVoter Sep 19 #37

Kimmel will never agree to "tone it down" Wiz Imp Sep 19 #41

Is that legal lingo? Tone It Down?!. BigmanPigman Sep 19 #42

What's the difference between a condition to "tone it down" and censorship? UTUSN Sep 19 #43

Kimmels show is suspended Indefinitely!! Or at least till sometime next week--LOL!! Bengus81 Sep 19 #46

Nothing Trump would like more than to take him off the air ToxMarz Sep 19 #48

Replacements for Kimmel? 3825-87867 Sep 19 #51

Perhaps they lost many Hulu/disney accounts over past day FloridaBlues Sep 19 #53

How about asking the fat orange POS to tone it down? Blue Owl Sep 19 #54

Yeah. Right on. NNadir Sep 19 #60

To ne itt Down Randomthought Sep 19 #57

The last three days the cast of the View have barely mentioned The OT name kimbutgar Sep 19 #63

How the f*ck do you tone down the TRUTH? Joinfortmill Sep 19 #64

Fuck Trump! red dog 1 Sep 19 #65

The show where he doesn't tone it down is a different show. gulliver Sep 20 #75

Did they feel they caved in too quickly to the FCC? Omnipresent Sep 20 #76

First report all the bad shit Kirk has said and done. GreenWave Sep 20 #77