These ABC idiots seem oblivious to the entire history of entertainment.
If you want success, you need to take risks and stand out and yes, create controversy.
If you just want to fade into the curtains of failure, please proceed and ‘tone it down’.
Kimmel is right to tell them to cram it. It’s his audience, not theirs.

and censor networks but he can't make us watch what they put in it's place.
The TV industry, if they don't want to all retire might do well to stand up to Trump now while they still can.

Imagine someone actually not doing what Trump demands.

Maybe it’s time for broadcast to end. Particularly when it’s held hostage by a self-fellating orange nosepicker like Trump.

but they might be Putin style propaganda. No one will watch. So the taxpayers will have to pay while they lose a fortune.

I would miss the broadcasts. A lot. I suppose Rachel etc. will find a place to be heard but it won't be the same. And wherever they go, Trump will go after that.

Here's hoping it will all come crashing down on Trump before that happens.

But they’ll still try some other stupid shit.

But yes, they will find a way. The owners of MSNBC are conservatives, after all.

It's not broadcast.

the best description I have ever heard of tsf.

but the networks aren't licensed as they only provide content to the various stations who are the ones who actually air it.

That is why CBS folded over 60 minutes.

Gets the lowest ratings in history- like lower than a late night infomercial.

They did political jokes, but you could never tell who's side of the isle they were on.

Late night was much better under them, IMO, as it was entertaining.

We really haven't had a day without hearing him in 13 years.

He has sucked the humor out of us.

To become unfunny - that was the choice of the hosts.

Again, JMO.

I believe Conan would have continued in their tradition.

right after ABC stops promoting Trump's lies and sanewashing him. Oh, yeah, and after ABC start reporting on Trump's child raping..

He’ll tell them to shove it sideways.

compared to some of Kimmel's material. I think nothing short of Republican talking points would please Trump and the oligarchs looking for mergers.

all because censors were trying to interfere with his show

Comedy Central was trying to exercise more control over his show. It had nothing to do with the government

Not when he had his show on Comedy Central

It was much later, when he became obsessed with trans stuff.

And yes- let's be honest. That has nothing to do with the FCC threatening to pull licenses.

Youre very confused what the issue is here.

No one said Kimmel was immune to criticism,either.

What on earth is your point when the concern of everyone is clear government censorship of Kimmel?

i'm not in the mood, suffice to say

And even if it was an elected Democrat, was it done in an official capacity or merely the expression of a personal opinion?

I admit that he was never someone who I paid any attention to, so whatever ruckus there was over him went over my head.

You mean the station that has been advocating for censorship since before the Dixie Chick's troubles?

and my original post had nothing to do with present day Chappelle.

there have been numerous conversations and flame wars about same, and with that I'll say I hear you knocking but you can't come in.

Go read OP.

Always easier if people just admit they barged into a convo not knowing what it's about.

More significantly, Chappelle is whining about having a show canceled when that show was canceled due to massive backlash from the local community where the venue was located. It had nothing to do with anyone in the Government censoring him. The local community was outraged that the venue would give a platform to a virulently transphobic asshole. That's not shutting him down, it's making it clear he offends the community's values.

Or was it market forces.

You do realize the major difference, no?

i was merely addressing censorship

We are in a police state now. Fascism is the order of the day. The government has bought a 10% stake in Intel. National Guard have occupied our cities and taken up local law enforcement duties. Freedom of Speech (You know, that First Amendment to the Constitution thingy) is in a tailspin.

... how will "tone it down" be defined in a revised contract? Who decides how far down the "tone" knob goes? Dear Leader telling any of these late night TV hosts what to say means you get no show.

PS - Check out the "tone" on FOX and its "Gutfield" show!

He’s a court jester. That’s what they do, point out the foibles of the court.


“Late night” Gutfeld is the media cowering yo the ratings king. He’s in at 10. Prime time. I’ve tried but I can’t get through much.
Ingraham at 7 Jessie Watters on the flagship at 8 Hannity at 9. Gutfeld

Ingraham and Watters are literally 3rd team. Hannity, as much as I hate to do this, is Homer Simpson. He’s been there the day it opened and he’s never been promoted. They wil not give him the flagship and he’s in direct conversation with with Trump.

How did we get here?

At one point, Carson created 20% of NBC’s revenue. There were only 3 TV channels. 20% of NBC’s revenue meant they had way more revenue than CBS or ABC. ABC tried Joey Bishop (with Regis) and Dick Cavett bounced between CBS ABC and PBS - some really great discussions.

Jack Paar created something that didn’t exist. Johnny (an out of the blue pick) took it to somewhere no could see coming AND that can’t be replicated.

Steve Allen was the first tonight show host, from September 27, 1954 to January 25, 1957. In fact, the original name of the show was the Steve Allen Show on WNBT in New York (after 1954 the call letters were changed to WNBC). Regular Tonight show features - the opening monologue, audience participation, comedy skits, celebrity appearances, and live music - were all originated by Allen.

My favorite is very young Frank Zappa playing bicycles as musical instruments. There is also a very interesting one of Jack Kerouac (very much under the influence) angrily discussing Beat with a "Hippie" professor who worshiped him.

I read several of his mystery books when I was in the Army.

There may be late night talk shows after that but they won't be the expensive kind like Tonight Show, Late Show, or Kimmel - they'll be a pure chat show on a simple set without anything requiring an expensive writing staff (monologues, comedy skits, etc.)

PERIOD!!!

ABC has nothing to do with it, and Sinclair has every right to pre-empt network programming on any of their affiliates any time they want.

That’s why I say ABC should just it air and the affiliates can do what they want.

He should tell ABC to go screw themselves. He certainly has other options available to him.

HIM AGAIN. I love Jimmy Kimmel. If he EVER says he sorry…..he won’t. and that is why I absolutely love him,

…and if Nexstar and Sinclair don’t want to air it, they don’t have to.

Oh, everbody know how thin-skinned Jim Kim are sometime! He might should lighten up"

Celebrity Jeopardy or whatever v

This came up before and he told them to get bent and continued to do his show according to his own standards.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-view-abc-tone-down-politics-trump-report_n_682e7eaae4b0a052877e91b3

When this goes to court will they be a tiny bit more specific about what "toning it down" means?

No judge in their right mind would look at this directive with anything but "you graduated from a law school?" as he doubles over laughing at this ridiculous waste of time and money.

Tell them to fucking stuff it Jimmy. They want you back only if severely neutered. Let me guess, make all the Obama-Biden jokes you want but leave Dear Leader out of the mix.

Oh yeah.. NO more talking about Epstein too. Sign here please.......

until he's learned his place and comes back with lauding praise for Trump on every show like one of his fucking cabinet or oligarch meetings. Even sweeter to Trump if people know it's not sincere and he's doing it out of weakness.

Bowling for Cryptos
Apply makeup to enhance masculinity
Bollywood Squares
Trump the Bounty Wiper
Hey Neighbor with Tim Allen as a maga hardware manager
How Shooting Puppies Got Me a Job with Dakota's Own Politician
Real Life Stories with George Santos
When your Depends Fails

Feel free to add more!

I don't like what happened to late night "talk shows." Johnny, Dave, Conan, Jay did talk shows. The new shows, where the monologues are often just diatribes, are not talk shows. They're diatribe shows.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's what ABC or any major network can sell through their affiliates. Kimmel, whom I find very funny and intelligent (but watch only in YouTube clips), needs to do a talk show if he's going to be on ABC. Otherwise, the loss of revenue from doing a diatribe show (and alienating affiliates and their customers) is an impact on workers' incomes and stockholders' 401(k)s.

I like what Conan and Dave have done lately. I like what Bill Maher has always done. Kimmel can do the same. Edgy is good. I just don't think it's good on legacy media networks. The traditional talk show may be a goner.

They not only caved in, but they helped to diminish our first amendment rights as citizens too!!
Fuck ABC!!!