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qazplm135

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28. The real problem
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 08:31 PM
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Is the fundamental disconnect between Trump voters and Biden/Harris voters. It's really vast and I don't think it's bridgeable.

They care little a about laws or rights or procedure, they just want straight white Christian men back on top, however that happens.

It's not really even a liberal v conservative anymore.

The side problem is that the Democratic Party is truly becoming a very loose coalition where parts of the coalition really don't like other parts of the coalition. And vice versa. That complicates our ability to fight and unite.

The final problem is the third of the country who simply refuse to participate in politics. They won't vote. They won't protest. They just remove themselves from everything. It's part of why we are locked into this yo yo between Dem and Rep for what seems like quite a long time now. At least since Clinton.

I don't know what fixes it. Yeah we could win in 26 and 28 but it's almost guaranteed we loose at least somewhere in 30.

Quite frankly we need a Barack/Bill type of charismatic leader to drag some of the folks out of their stupor into the voting booth.

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