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Dave Bowman

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65. How about a spoon? That would be as effective.

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Houston homeowner kills two masked, armed men claiming to be law-enforcement with warrant [View all] jmbar2 Aug 23 OP

Those men were obviously burglars and not ICE DBoon Aug 23 #1

Sorta sounds to me popsdenver Aug 23 #71

The "Wild Wild West" is a myth. Lochloosa Aug 23 #89

OF COURSE! The most famous western gunfight in Tombstone AZ Jack Valentino Aug 23 #98

There was an ordinance in Tombstone Oeditpus Rex Sunday #104

All also true, but acting town Marshall Virgil Earp's intention to disarm the Clanton gang Jack Valentino Sunday #131

Yes.. The 1870's+. The era of selling children for factory and farm work. The era of plutocracy that was gone LiberalArkie Sunday #122

You won the internet today choie Sunday #127

I'm with you... FirstLight Aug 23 #2

So that's what happened to their brains. pandr32 Aug 23 #38

Real or not, ICE agents have been acting like criminals newdeal2 Aug 23 #3

This! FakeNoose Aug 23 #18

Many ICE agents are the J6 criminals whom 45* pardoned. groundloop Aug 23 #68

Yep....or rogue cops that have been fired and now have their wet dream come true Bengus81 Sunday #124

It's impossible to tell the criminals (ICE) from the criminals. Ferrets are Cool Aug 23 #4

The criminals are more honest. They tell you they want your money or whatever. Wonder Why Aug 23 #6

Murdering Nazis And Murdering Crooks Are Two Turds In The Same Stinkin' Crock MayReasonRule Aug 23 #57

Something something let God sort 'em out. Grokenstein Aug 23 #72

This will not be the last time. MineralMan Aug 23 #5

Unfortunately - you CAN "just yell and break down the door" stopdiggin Aug 23 #9

That requires a warrant, though, that specifies "no knock." MineralMan Aug 23 #33

Yes. And we both wander a little afield here ... stopdiggin Aug 23 #37

Frankly, I don't know what happened in that incident. MineralMan Aug 23 #40

Exactly. If they are masked and don't have a warrant, and end up sho, KPN Aug 23 #51

But it's Texas. rubbersole Aug 23 #69

Or your relationship with the current powers. erronis Aug 23 #82

Juries have found people innocent when shooting at police NickB79 Aug 23 #87

The police spokeswoman EndlessWire Aug 23 #11

The intruders did say they were there to serve a warrant (00:22) jmbar2 Aug 23 #16

You just expanded my vocabulary - curtilage. 3catwoman3 Aug 23 #31

I looked it up too. Mossfern Aug 23 #62

Yes, that the 2 dead people apparently shot first seems the most important part of the story muriel_volestrangler Aug 23 #58

The same cops that shot an unarmed woman in her bed. Conjuay Aug 23 #86

Armed knock politely kiri Aug 23 #12

The murderer of the Minnesota legislators: Melissa Hartman and John Hoffman claimed to be a police officer question everything Aug 23 #13

Exactly Roxi Aug 23 #15

Yes, exactly. Anyone can "claim" to be the police. MineralMan Aug 23 #36

Trump's ICE tactics will be to blame when real cops with warrants are gunned down by fearful and suspicious citizens. sop Aug 23 #44

Will they be blamed, though? Shipwack Aug 23 #60

Jurors, although a part of the system in that they are soldierant Aug 23 #83

That's assuming that these cases go before a jury. A judicial ruling or political interference erronis Aug 23 #84

This being Houston, the grand jury will no bill. cloudbase Aug 23 #7

As they should.. TnDem Aug 23 #14

Depending on the race of the homeowners. nt Wednesdays Aug 23 #24

Whoever authorized ICE to wear masks inspired this, Heidi Aug 23 #8

That simple malaise Aug 23 #22

They'll eventually tell them to wear white robes and white pointy hats, Bayard Aug 23 #55

I doubt that. They're too gutless to be so obviously Heidi Aug 23 #56

Oops! 2naSalit Aug 23 #10

That was only a matter of time. tanyev Aug 23 #17

I've been saying this since Krasnov got re-elected kkmarie Aug 23 #28

You can still be anti-gun swong19104 Aug 23 #19

I suppose they could have stabbed a sword through the door jmbar2 Aug 23 #20

Happens not only in the big cities... slightlv Aug 23 #45

That ship sailed Hornedfrog2000 Aug 23 #50

Yep TommyT139 Aug 23 #54

After the assailant has shot through the door? Really, Heidi Aug 23 #53

How about a spoon? That would be as effective. Dave Bowman Aug 23 #65

It can be better. See this short clip: Wonder Why Aug 23 #95

He could have used a large can of beans... sarisataka Aug 23 #66

Before or after MorbidButterflyTat Aug 23 #81

Not if they have a gun. nt Susan Calvin Aug 23 #80

Wake up call for America's Gestapo. republianmushroom Aug 23 #21

I like that she calls them suspects numerous times Norbert Aug 23 #23

"And, uh, yeah" Aviation Pro Aug 23 #25

What will the NRA say? multigraincracker Aug 23 #26

Yes, if true this could cause a great disturbance in MAGA circles. tanyev Aug 23 #29

The whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment Mz Pip Aug 23 #30

Because they have case going up the line TommyT139 Aug 23 #63

This kind of event might explain why ICE, et.al., don't seem to be going after actual criminals The Madcap Aug 23 #27

DOJ will probably go after the homeowners Bobstandard Aug 23 #32

Actually, that's sound logic! 70sEraVet Aug 23 #46

Anybody can go online and purchase a badge and official looking patches to put on tactical gear Attilatheblond Aug 23 #61

But going after gangs and real criminals is not the purpose. It is to terrorize the populace. erronis Aug 23 #85

Yeah, this IS about terrorizing and probably trying to trigger us to violence so they can bring in tanks Attilatheblond Aug 23 #97

MAGA loves the confusion and chaos. This is by design IronLionZion Aug 23 #34

Exactly, Hornedfrog2000 Aug 23 #48

Good point... slightlv Aug 23 #49

The Secret Police have arrived. thought crime Aug 23 #88

I suspect this is one of many incidents to come related to ICE Jarqui Aug 23 #35

I expected it to happen sooner, gab13by13 Aug 23 #39

Texas Stand Your Ground backs this homeowners decision to protect his home MagickMuffin Aug 23 #41

Tricky 'cause if you kill actual LEO, you'll probably end up dead yourself Kaleva Aug 23 #42

Well, police aint knocking at the door for real long Hornedfrog2000 Aug 23 #47

Yup, time to start shooting masked people Hornedfrog2000 Aug 23 #43

Bound to happen again. nt Exp Aug 23 #52

Criminals impersonating LEO isn't anything new Kaleva Sunday #119

It seems that the two weren't actually law enforcement markodochartaigh Aug 23 #59

Thugs pretending to be thugs. Ping Tung Aug 23 #64

Sounds justfied to me. Stood his ground against thugs. Ritabert Aug 23 #67

Whether it is determined to be justifiable will likely depend on the race(s) Heidi Sunday #108

This is more of a Castle Doctrine case then a Stand Your Ground case Kaleva Sunday #121

This is plain old self-defense because they were fired at. LeftInTX Sunday #126

Agree. I very much doubt charges will be filed Kaleva Sunday #128

If anything, I'm surprised there hasn't been more of this...but there definitely will be. When it's impossible to tell Karasu Aug 23 #70

Any masked up individuals trying to crash through my door would meet the same resistance. GoodRaisin Aug 23 #73

Any update to this story? senseandsensibility Aug 23 #74

I looked... littlemissmartypants Aug 23 #75

Thanks! senseandsensibility Aug 23 #77

My pleasure. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Aug 23 #79

If they were LE, we would have found out by now. LeftInTX Aug 23 #92

Not enough information yet. Sneederbunk Aug 23 #76

I got a handgun, training, and a license to carry right after the election. Susan Calvin Aug 23 #78

Here's KPRC-TV Channel 2's version red dog 1 Aug 23 #90

That seems like a LONG time to investigate jmbar2 Aug 23 #93

... orangecrush Aug 23 #91

My hubby approves of this version senseandsensibility Sunday #129

Don't know orangecrush Sunday #130

And so DiverDave Aug 23 #94

So MAGATs have succeeded in totally undermining trust in law enforcement. We will shoot them on sight in future of they Martin68 Aug 23 #96

Their body armor didn't help them. LudwigPastorius Aug 23 #99

Body armor doesn't cover the head. LisaL Aug 23 #100

That's what you get when cops wear masks, doc03 Aug 23 #101

Somebody will need a new door! Aussie105 Sunday #102

Just another day in the fucking nightmare hellscape that is Donald Trump's America. Initech Sunday #103

Why does it feel like we're in the fast lane toward Hell? calimary Sunday #105

We've been here since 2016. Initech Sunday #106

It will be interesting to learn the races of the home occupant and the assailants. Heidi Sunday #107

I don't get the impression that people are too "shocked" by this crime. LeftInTX Sunday #109

Wow! People aren't shocked by armed, masked, badge-wearing Heidi Sunday #110

It's a home invasion. LeftInTX Sunday #111

I agree that it's a home invasion. Heidi Sunday #112

I don't think the residents will be charged and the shooters probably knew (targeted) the homeowners. LeftInTX Sunday #113

I hope you're right. Heidi Sunday #115

I'm in San Antonio, 200 miles away. I'm just looking at the news stories and there isn't much. Just a rehash of this LeftInTX Sunday #116

Criminals impersonating LEO isn't anything new Kaleva Sunday #120

That's true but do we need more of it? Heidi Sunday #123

The zip code is 81% Hispanic LeftInTX Sunday #117

Noted. Do you think the home occupants were targeted Heidi Sunday #118

I have no idea, but I kinda doubt it. LeftInTX Sunday #125

Whoever and whatever those two men were, they were in dire need of a dirt nap. Crunchy Frog Sunday #114