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WhiskeyGrinder

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Thu Aug 21, 2025, 01:03 PM Aug 21

Israeli army database suggests at least 83% of Gaza dead were civilians [View all]



https://www.972mag.com/israeli-intelligence-database-83-percent-civilians-militants/

Data from an internal Israeli intelligence database indicates that at least 83 percent of Palestinians killed in Israel’s onslaught on Gaza were civilians, an investigation by +972 Magazine, Local Call, and the Guardian can reveal.

Figures obtained from the classified database — which records the deaths of militants from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) — contradict by a huge margin the public statements of Israeli army and government officials throughout the war, which have generally claimed a 1:1 or 2:1 ratio of civilian to militant casualties. Instead, the classified data backs up the findings of several studies suggesting Israel’s bombardment of Gaza has killed civilians at a rate with few parallels in modern warfare.

The Israeli army confirmed the existence of the database, which is managed by the Military Intelligence Directorate (known by the Hebrew acronym “Aman”). Multiple intelligence sources familiar with the database said the army views it as the only authoritative tally of militant casualty figures. In the words of one of them: “There’s no other place to check.”

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The overall death tolls published daily by the Gaza Health Ministry (which Local Call revealed last year are considered reliable even by the Israeli military) do not distinguish between civilians and militants. But taking the militant casualty figures obtained from the internal Israeli army database in May and lining them up against the Health Ministry’s total death toll, it is possible to calculate an approximate civilian casualty ratio for the war up until three months ago, when the death toll stood at 53,000.
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Interesting. Dave Bowman Aug 21 #1
US imposes sanctions on international court officials in 'flagrant attack Ping Tung Aug 21 #2
The Guardian article on this is very good too. AloeVera Aug 21 #3
The Guardian is the best source on the planet malaise Aug 21 #17
That graph is NOT from the database; it is a construction based on total numbers dead provided by Hamas. elias7 Aug 21 #4
Some view Hamas as reliably reporting freedom fighters. nt LexVegas Aug 21 #5
Apparently so does the IDF. AloeVera Aug 21 #12
Good Lord. You doubt a list of dead complete with ID numbers? AloeVera Aug 21 #6
Does the IDF "know" that civilians are "being used as human shields" why are they murdering them? Ping Tung Aug 21 #7
Being labelled a "human shield" is a death sentence. AloeVera Aug 21 #9
The troops are "just following orders". The unarmed civilians are reduced to necessary collateral damage. Ping Tung Aug 21 #11
Soldiers are brainwashed into acquiescence to being killing machines. AloeVera Aug 21 #14
Lol. There was a Chicago radio host, Jay Marvin, who used to refer to right wingers as "brain stems" Hassin Bin Sober Aug 21 #10
It's what happens when you wage total war in/on densely populated urban areas...nt Wounded Bear Aug 21 #8
Savage. H2O Man Aug 21 #13
You mean those "precision strikes" people said the IDF was carefully carrying out turned out to be bullshit? Rob H. Aug 21 #15
Duh! malaise Aug 21 #16
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