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In reply to the discussion: Ex-CIA Whistleblower: "The NSA Audited The 2024 Election, Kamala Harris Won" [View all]Kid Berwyn
(21,858 posts)127. I hate NAZIs, no matter who.
The thing is Semion Mogilevich, the head of the Mafiya. He scares Putin because he runs the Mafiya and has the goods on Putin and every oligarch in all the Russias.
Trumps ties to the Russian mafia go back 3 decades
Journalist Craig Unger talks Russia, Trump, and one of the greatest intelligence operations in history.
by Sean Illing
Vox, Januar 12, 2019
On November 9, 2016, just a few minutes after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, a man named Vyacheslav Nikonov approached a microphone in the Russian State Duma (their equivalent of the US House of Representatives) and made a very unusual statement.
Dear friends, respected colleagues! Nikonov said. Three minutes ago, Hillary Clinton admitted her defeat in US presidential elections, and a second ago Trump started his speech as an elected president of the United States of America, and I congratulate you on this.
Nikonov is a leader in the pro-Putin United Russia Party and, incidentally, the grandson of Vyacheslav Molotov after whom the Molotov cocktail was named. His announcement that day was a clear signal that Trumps victory was, in fact, a victory for Putins Russia.
Longtime journalist Craig Unger opens his new book, House of Trump, House of Putin, with this anecdote. The book is an impressive attempt to gather up all the evidence we have of Trumps numerous connections to the Russian mafia and government and lay it all out in a clear, comprehensive narrative.
The book claims to unpack an untold story, but its not entirely clear how much of it is new. One of the hardest things to accept about the Trump-Russia saga is how transparent it is. So much of the evidence is hiding in plain sight, and somehow that has made it harder to accept.
Snipski...
Craig Unger: Yes, absolutely. But lets go back in time, because I think all of this began as a money-laundering operation with the Russian mafia. Its well known that Trump likes doing business with gangsters, in part because they pay top dollar and loan money when traditional banks wont, so it was a win-win for both sides.
The key point I want to get across in the book is that the Russian mafia is different than the American mafia, and I think a lot of Americans dont understand this. In Russia, the mafia is essentially a state actor. When I interviewed Gen. Oleg Kalugin, who is a former head of counterintelligence in the KGB and had been Vladimir Putins boss at one point, I asked him about the mafia. He said, Oh, its part of the KGB. Its part of the Russian government.
And thats essential to the whole premise of the book. Trump was working with the Russian mafia for more than 30 years. He was profiting from them. They rescued him. They bailed him out. They took him from being $4 billion in debt to becoming a multibillionaire again, and they fueled his political ambitions, starting more than 30 years ago. This means Trump was in bed with the Kremlin as well, whether he knew it or not.
Continueski...
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-fbi-russia-new-york-times-craig-unger
The back story:
The Strange Ties between Semion Mogilevich and Vladimir Putin
by Roman Kupchinsky
Eurasia Daily Monitor, Volume: 6 Issue: 57; March 25, 2009
Excerpt...
The questions surrounding the Putin-Mogilevich relationship if indeed there is one are not simply theoretical; the answers touch on the nature of power in the Kremlin; how it functions and which players serve its purposes. Part of the answer can be found in the Kuchma-Derkach dialogue held in Kuchmas office on February 8, 2000. According to a recording of the conversation made by a member of Kuchmas security detail, Mykola Melnychenko:
Kuchma: "Have you found Mogilevich?"
Derkach: "I found him."
Kuchma: "So, are you two working now?"
Derkach: "Were working. We have another meeting tomorrow. He arrives incognito.
Later in the discussion Derkach revealed a few details about Mogilevich.
Derkach: "Hes on good terms with Putin. He and Putin have been in contact since Putin was still in Leningrad."
Kuchma: "I hope we wont have any problems because of this."
Derkach: "They have their own affairs" (The transcript appears in the forthcoming book by J.V. Koshiw, The Politics of Kuchma the Melnychenko Recordings August 1999 to September 2000).
A second key to the puzzle lies in the alleged relationship between Firtash and Mogilevich in the Eural Trans Gas and RosUkrEnergo, companies involved in the strategically important transit of natural gas from Central Asia to Ukraine which worked closely with Gazprom, the Russian state-owned gas company apparently controlled by Putin.
Continuesnoshitski...
https://jamestown.org/program/the-strange-ties-between-semion-mogilevich-and-vladimir-putin/
My problem is how Corporate McPravda (ABCNNBCBSFakeNoiseNutworks) has managed to miss even mentioning Craig Unger for the last 10 years on tee vee.
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Ex-CIA Whistleblower: "The NSA Audited The 2024 Election, Kamala Harris Won" [View all]
liberalla
Jul 31
OP
"...the Democrats and other allied interests responsible for burying the audit"
LudwigPastorius
Jul 31
#7
? ? ? ... not to President Biden, Vice President Harris, or Governor Walz, but to the Democrats and other allied
tblue37
Jul 31
#4
If someone had told you 70 years ago that the star of Bedtime for Bonzo would become president
Fiendish Thingy
Aug 1
#82
The big boy way to deal with that is to alert and see what happens, and if one doesn't
Scrivener7
Aug 1
#131
LOL! This guy is nuttier than a fruitcake! An election denier with Covid conspiracy theories too!
tritsofme
Jul 31
#10
You're asking why Democrats didn't act like raving lunatics and spew blatant lies?
tritsofme
Jul 31
#18
Democratic Secretaries of State certified the results in many swing states
Fiendish Thingy
Jul 31
#32
Because there was nothing to question with the results. Sorry they didn't do more to humor conspiracy theorists?
tritsofme
Jul 31
#36
Reverse a few words, this statement could have been made verbatim by Trump election deniers after 2020
tritsofme
Jul 31
#23
It shows Trump is boring. The election shows more people were motivated by a racist, anti-immigrant, fake business guru
Doodley
Aug 1
#81
Do you believe the author that there is a secret NSA report on the election that is being covered up by Democrats?
tritsofme
Jul 31
#34
To believe the 2024 vote you have to believe that millions of Americans showed up to vote but skipped..
Botany
Aug 1
#144
If you are going to embrace Trump-style conspiracy theories, I suppose you would have to embrace alternative facts too.
tritsofme
Aug 2
#157
lol, so if you don't believe this author that Democrats are actively covering up the "stolen election"
tritsofme
Jul 31
#43
The author of this dross, as fully shown in the thread, is a CT crackpot. Does saying that make me a 'Trump supporter'?
Celerity
Aug 1
#90
Do you believe the author that there is a secret NSA report on the election that is being covered up by Democrats?
tritsofme
Jul 31
#45
Well, this nutcase author answers the question by arguing that Democrats are actively covering up evidence of a "stolen"
tritsofme
Jul 31
#50
The guy can't even make it through a round of golf on his own course without someone throwing down a ball...
Hugin
Jul 31
#63
I mean...this is nothing but ridiculous nonsense from a guy who is also pushing weird Covid conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Aug 1
#79
Sad to see this crackpottery get over 100 recs. The author is a raving CT loon, as shown repeatedly in the thread.
Celerity
Aug 1
#88
Too much speculation in the presented theories not enough evidence to support it
neohippie
Aug 1
#94