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Jack Valentino

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6. I am rather a student of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor,
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 11:30 PM
Jun 2025

as well as much of the rest of World War II,
and have gamed out scenarios of that attack, and the whole war...


We Americans had good reason to discount the probability of any attack on Hawaii,
because of the distance from Japan, and the fuel it would take
for any Japanese attack fleet to get there, and be able to make it back home----
(I presume that was their assumption, although I've never read any documentation of such--
simply, they thought Hawaii was safe from any possible Japanese attack, that is, the majority
of the military.... there were a few alarmed dissenters, but they couldn't get that message through)


While OTOH, the Japanese fleet, to be able to make this attack on Hawaii and return
from this attack which they had been planning all through the year of 1941,
were storing extra fuel on all of their ships in 5-gallon cans, in any space that was available
(as well as on fuel tankers accompanying the attack fleet).

On their return home, some of the Japanese aircraft carriers broke away
and participated in the Japanese siege of Wake Island...
(When the Americans on Wake realized that they were finally being attacked by carrier planes,
they thought their time was just about gone--- they were forced to surrender just before Christmas 1941.)


The Ukranian drone attack here was absolutely brilliant!
No idea how they managed to truck all those drones so close to their targets,
but obviously Russian security was even more faulty than that of the Americans in December 1941!





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And still no news about what the drones in the US were Renew Deal Jun 2025 #1
were what? Looks like you didn't finish your reply, as written... ? Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #3
I assume they were referring to this. sheshe2 Jun 2025 #8
Mostly mis-identified piloted planes edhopper Jun 2025 #28
Shit! I didnt even think about that. johnnyfins Jun 2025 #4
I assume it was elons brother Hornedfrog2000 Jun 2025 #26
Mostly mis-identified edhopper Jun 2025 #27
Mostly ThreeNoSeep Jun 2025 #30
What quote? edhopper Jun 2025 #32
Context ThreeNoSeep Jun 2025 #34
I see edhopper Jun 2025 #37
The evidence does not support your conclusion ThreeNoSeep Jun 2025 #38
That seems to be the governments conclusion edhopper Jun 2025 #39
Interesting johnnyfins Jun 2025 #2
Shipping containers by the literal millions have entered our ports unexamined. rubbersole Jun 2025 #9
Except for it wont be done till 2045 Figarosmom Jun 2025 #11
Boot says -- albeit in a much more informed and sophisticated way -- exactly what I've thought today... Hekate Jun 2025 #5
Yup. sheshe2 Jun 2025 #10
I am rather a student of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #6
As Spectacular As The US Failure Was modrepub Jun 2025 #21
It was never part of the plan for Japan to take Hawaii, in the attack Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #40
The US spent billions securing commercial aircraft. usonian Jun 2025 #7
Not just planes... Shipwack Jun 2025 #12
Looking forward to: Vlad, in his dacha, with a drone strike. Hassler Jun 2025 #13
Hell, YES!!! BigmanPigman Jun 2025 #14
TY and Kick for Ukraine...💙💛 Cha Jun 2025 #15
We can stop buying $100 million F-35's now. James48 Jun 2025 #16
The US military has been working with drones for over 75 years Johnny2X2X Jun 2025 #35
I have no military background but wouldn't antiaircraft guns Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #17
Land based CIWS systems located around the base perimeter Kaleva Jun 2025 #19
Thank you for that information. Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #23
A link to the Russian system Kaleva Jun 2025 #25
There have already been (likely) chinese drones k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #18
War Is Expensive modrepub Jun 2025 #20
I think drones are also a major threat for assassination attempts. mackdaddy Jun 2025 #22
Odd they (the ubiquitous they!) compared this to Pearl Harbor ThreeNoSeep Jun 2025 #24
The Pearl Harbor analogy is rather worrisome I-teach-kids Jun 2025 #29
Analogy fails because Russia had started formal hostilities. Nt BadgerKid Jun 2025 #33
Drones are already being flown around US military bases, so yeah, the worry is real. Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #31
The days of the human military pilot are numbered madville Jun 2025 #36
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