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roamer65

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8. I think we are shifting back to the 1789-1865 mindset.

Wed Jul 14, 2021, 01:29 PM

Jul 2021

For example, I see myself more as a Michigander than I do an American.

During the above mentioned timeframe, most identified with their state before they did nation.

Federalism is breaking down, with a confederation mentality replacing it.

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I don't love this country, [View all] edhopper Jul 2021 OP

Your last sentence is perfect. Thanks! madinmaryland Jul 2021 #1

Differing Definitions liberalgunwilltravel Jul 2021 #31

My thoughts as well. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #2

The only group I identify with edhopper Jul 2021 #3

Lol! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #7

I do. dawg Jul 2021 #4

I'm curious. Can you explain why or is it just something we are "taught" to do? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #9

There's lots to love about this country. dawg Jul 2021 #12

Well written reply PJMcK Jul 2021 #13

Good post. I can agree with it. wnylib Jul 2021 #26

You should make THAT an OP! Well said. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #43

Thanks for the reply Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #50

No doubt we'd have a blast chatting over coffee or drinks! dawg Jul 2021 #56

yep uponit7771 Jul 2021 #61

Yes EXACTLY 👍 Raine Jul 2021 #64

Patriotism has always been Disaffected Jul 2021 #5

Patriotism has always been linked to nationalism and thus to borders and isolationism. erronis Jul 2021 #25

Yes, Disaffected Jul 2021 #29

But now they're "my country, Trump". oldsoftie Jul 2021 #44

Too many people don't distinguish wnylib Jul 2021 #28

ditto that thought. erronis Jul 2021 #33

Well stated. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #6

I think we are shifting back to the 1789-1865 mindset. roamer65 Jul 2021 #8

Good point. JFK60 Jul 2021 #62

Right on! bluestarone Jul 2021 #10

I love this country, it just embarrasses the shit out of me. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2021 #11

Wow, I agree with every single word you just said. Bleacher Creature Jul 2021 #14

Thanks! A HERETIC I AM Jul 2021 #16

great movie about the Maori in present times, 1994, "Once were Warriors" Shellback Squid Jul 2021 #17

A 1st cousin of mine that I've known moonscape Jul 2021 #51

I pretty much feel the same as you do. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #15

I fly the Mexican Flag at my house in California MenloParque Jul 2021 #18

Amor liberalgunwilltravel Jul 2021 #37

I have lived there. July Jul 2021 #60

I totally agree. cyndensco Jul 2021 #19

Part of that comes from privilege BradAllison Jul 2021 #20

Watch it, buddy. I was born in Mississippi! In the Delta. deurbano Jul 2021 #57

Well said wendyb-NC Jul 2021 #21

Yes! USAFRetired_Liberal Jul 2021 #22

I agree, and I never really understood the whole TxGuitar Jul 2021 #23

I do. edbermac Jul 2021 #24

never understood why I have to 'love this country or leave it' y'know just coz some meme. KG Jul 2021 #27

It's the attitude of authoritarian bullies. They don't care if they are wrong MarcA Jul 2021 #40

Agree! DemUnleashed Jul 2021 #30

Gasp!!! But but but - what about "my country right or wrong"? calimary Jul 2021 #32

But you do hug a flag when you see one right? j/k hibbing Jul 2021 #34

I've only seen ONE person in my entire LIFE do that... oldsoftie Jul 2021 #45

Would it be wrong obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2021 #35

Certainly not. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #49

I agree with you. Tribalism on a grand scale leads to totalitarian governments I believe. jalan48 Jul 2021 #36

I feel pretty much the same Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #38

Aruba! oldsoftie Jul 2021 #46

ah yup..... bahboo Jul 2021 #58

K&R spanone Jul 2021 #39

No system is any better than the people of which it consists. MarcA Jul 2021 #41

Citizens are people who ask: "What should we do?" zaj Jul 2021 #42

Love It Or... lame54 Jul 2021 #47

I'll take John Lennon for the win..... multigraincracker Jul 2021 #48

I'll second that Deuxcents Jul 2021 #54

Feel the same. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2021 #52

My Grandmother always told me Texasgal Jul 2021 #53

Nailed it. My EXACT sentiments. 634-5789 Jul 2021 #55

Times Change, People Change & Counties Change...But I do love this country... Stuart G Jul 2021 #59

I am glad I was born in Australia... uriel1972 Jul 2021 #63

Great post Ed canetoad Jul 2021 #65

I never felt American until I moved away. betsuni Jul 2021 #66