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Sun Dec-12-10 05:18 PM
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| Governor Dean and Bernie Sanders are proud progressives. |
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Although I don't expect to ever see them on a ticket together, it would be nice to see.
When people say, "Where you gonna go?" or "You gonna just not vote at all?", I think of our proud progressives that might be persuaded to join the fight if it were necessary.
It keeps me from losing hope.
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Sun Dec-12-10 05:45 PM
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Sun Dec-12-10 05:47 PM
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| 2. kick & rec for the good guys |
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Sun Dec-12-10 05:57 PM
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| 3. It`s so refreshing to hear plain talk from Dean and Sanders |
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rather than phrases gleaned from an Emoto-Meter in a Frank Luntz focus group or a DLC memo-writing confab.
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Sun Dec-12-10 06:26 PM
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| 4. Governor Dean is pretty much a moderate by national party standards |
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Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 06:27 PM by Recursion
He was against the Iraq war, which is why he became a hero to a lot of the left, but he's against gun control (on the national level at least) and he says NAFTA is a good framework that can use improvements, rather than that it needs to be scrapped. He supports TANF block grant extensions but is willing to see them tied to "welfare-to-work" programs. And of course he's famously pro-single-payer.
So basically he's a more or less a moderate Democrat with a few positions that stick out (in both directions). He's moderate enough that Anthony Pollina ran against him in 2000 on the Progressive ticket.
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Sun Dec-12-10 06:32 PM
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| 5. WHy would you want a losing ticket? |
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I appreciate finding candidates that agree with me, but I've backed enough losers to temper my enthusiasm with reality. Agreeing with me on issues is worthless if they'll never get elected to implement them. Howard Dean did a fine job as DNC Chair, but did poorly in the 2004 Presidential Primary, giving me no confidence he could run and win a national campaign. And as an avowed Socialist, Bernie Sanders would probably do even worse.
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Sun Dec-12-10 06:46 PM
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| 6. At least, you won't be lost. |
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You will know where you stand.
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Sun Dec-12-10 07:42 PM
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| 8. I know where I stand... |
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...and I'm realistic enough to know I'm not going to get everything I want, in exactly the form I want it. Fighting for what I CAN achieve is more important than standing for principles the Republicans will never begin to fight for.
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Sun Dec-12-10 06:47 PM
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| 7. That would be a great ticket. |
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Theirs would be a great Administration -- one of the all-time most important, certainly.
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Sun Dec-12-10 07:59 PM
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| 9. America couldn't handle that much intelligence and integrity in one |
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:01 PM
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| 10. What about being from the same State requirements in the Constitution? |
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:02 PM
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:03 PM
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| 13. Pretty sure that it pissed off a lot of people when Cheney claimed WY residency |
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Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:04 PM by PBS Poll-435
When he lived on Beverly Drive here in Dallas during that time.
Just blocks from where Bush lives now...
BTW best XMAS lights in the city!
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:03 PM
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| 12. Howard Dean is more conservative than you think. And I say that as |
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Sun Dec-12-10 09:02 PM
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| 14. I thought that the DNC had long since beaten the progressive out of Dean. |
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Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 09:03 PM by Orsino
If there is still some left, that's good news.
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Sun Dec-12-10 09:06 PM
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| 15. They are fighters not quitters |
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I cannot even stand to watch the President anymore because of this capitulation to the rethugs.
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