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Sat Dec-11-10 06:59 PM
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| Of everything in this Republican Tax Bill - what is the one thing that pisses you off the most - |
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the one thing that makes you totally unable to support it.
So much to choose from - the payroll tax holiday; Welfare for Millionaires and Billionaires; the Estate Tax cuts; 2 year extension of Bush tax cuts and only 13 months of unemployment; nothing for the 99'ers.
Which is your one blood curling part of the bill?
Mine is the payroll tax holiday.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:00 PM
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| 1. As much as I hate the continued tax cut for the super rich... |
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the payroll tax holiday is the part that feels the most like a betrayal by Obama.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:48 PM
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| 23. We now have a president that is willing to gegotiate with terrorists. |
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:17 PM
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| 25. The rich have unfairly benefited for 10 years - it is time they paid their fair share |
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Now the rich are hoarding their money and starving the economy. We need to tax away their excess assets and put it back into circulation so everyone receives economic benefit.
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:42 PM
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| 28. Agreed - I find the stealth attack on Social Security most deplorable. nt |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:01 PM
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| 2. That is mine also an attack on SS |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:04 PM
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| 3. +1......thats the deal breaker. |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:05 PM
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| 4. The one thing that bothers me is that MY president is telling ME |
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how good this is, without drawing a single line in the sand. Give everyone everything.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:07 PM
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| 5. "Take it or Leave it" - ugh - thankfully the House said they will leave it. |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:07 PM
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They are unprecedented for any administration and designed specifically to scrap SS and Medicare.
Close second is tax cuts for multi-millionaires (those will a million in net assets don't make a million a year) and billionaires who neither need nor want them.
Tied for second place in the estate tax. This is NOT double taxation. Most of these funds, if taxed, were at capital gains rates, not ordinary income - and that is ONLY if the underlying asset(s) had been sold.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:10 PM
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| 8. #1: payroll tax holiday trick |
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#2 tying UI to tax breaks....not fair..
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:22 PM
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:30 PM
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and holding the unemployed hostage. You know that was included in an effort to force Democrats who otherwise voted against the bill to support it. And, as long as they were using the unemployed this way, not including any help for the 99ers really bites.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:09 PM
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| 7. Mine is the payroll tax holiday also. |
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If a supposed Democrat won't protect Social Security, who will? Shame on Obama for allowing such a dastardly, underhanded poison pill into this agreement.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:11 PM
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That in no way reflects a compromise - it is joining the effort to bankrupt Social Security.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:13 PM
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| 10. The payroll tax holiday has the potential to do the most long-term harm. |
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I don't even know whether it was Obama's or the Republicans' idea to include it. I do know it was recommended by the so-called cat food commission -- which is odd, because it adds to the deficit. Weren't they supposed to be looking for ways to cut the deficit?
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:14 PM
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| 11. The fact that it's tied to unemployment. If that doesn't count then 'payroll tax holiday'. |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:19 PM
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| 12. extention of the debt creating tax cuts for THOSE WHO DO NOT NEED IT AND ARE KILLING AMERICA. |
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GUILLOTINES!!! ROLL THEM OUT NOW.
can i get that for an avatar?
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:21 PM
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| 13. +1, I really hate how they snuck it in there, too, the cowards! |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:22 PM
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| 15. The Poison Pill for Social Security, otherwise known as the Payroll Tax Holiday. |
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Not that borrowing money from China to fund a tax cut for the incredibly wealthy isn't equally repulsive, but the stealth attack on a social program that is essential to our nations elderly is as despicable as it gets.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:22 PM
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| 16. Payroll Tax----This could be the beginning of the end of SS as we |
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know it. The GOP have tried in the past to do this
but Dems blocked it knowing that not funding SS gives
the Republicans the Camel's nose under the tent they
have been after. Ending FDRs New Deal is their life
objective.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:33 PM
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:35 PM
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| 18. Payroll tax holiday n/t |
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:37 PM
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| 19. short term solution (?) |
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to long term problem... I am concerned that this is all we can do as a country anymore...
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:38 PM
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| 20. The whole thing is inexcusable. |
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I want it buried six feet under and salt sowed there.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:39 PM
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| 21. That we can't take the wall street thieves out and give them |
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:27 AM
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| 37. Sometimes direct action is really the most useful |
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And that's about all I'll say about that.
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Sun Dec-12-10 10:55 AM
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| 41. But if it means missing Skating With The Stars, it won't happen. |
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The velvet revolution worked without violence, and that is the best way to do things. It should not be directed to lawmakers, but to the big money supporting and controlling them.
We should first push for public funding of federal elections. Take the big dollars out of elections. Do away with the Citizen's United decision, or force total transparency. No more hiding behind third party fronts.
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:40 PM
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| 22. Continuation of Bush tax cuts |
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I remember Obama repeatedly saying he wanted to raise taxes on the super rich, and now he proves his words were worthless.
Its ironic some core Obama supporters are trying to act like this is no big deal, or they ignore it completely. Giving the Rich more tax cuts is what the Republicans do, not the Democratic party! DUH
No wonder liberal Democrats are so upset, if Obama is willing to compromise on a core Democratic principle like this one, what won't he compromise on? (Social security, etc)
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Sat Dec-11-10 07:59 PM
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| 24. You nailed it....I don't trust him anymore either. |
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Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 08:03 PM by yourout
I gave him the benefit of doubt until now but I simply don't trust him anymore.
It is a sad day when a Democrat distrusts his Democratic President .
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:45 PM
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| 29. Passed during the winter and holiday season |
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:46 PM
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| 30. Lapdog Dems who love their abusers |
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:57 PM
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| 31. The un-called for attack on SS...(There are better ways to deliver a stimulus than undermining SS ) |
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Sat Dec-11-10 08:58 PM
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| 32. mine, too; especially how it's a deliberate poison pill to decimate Soc Sec |
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and, the working poor lose the earned income tax credit.....
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Sat Dec-11-10 09:09 PM
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Sat Dec-11-10 10:24 PM
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| 34. Wow - it's just about unanimous so far - the payroll tax holiday- and I thought I was the only one. |
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:25 AM
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| 35. Welfare for billionaires |
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followed closely by the attack on Social Security through the "payroll tax holiday". Sorry, couldn't just pick one.
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:27 AM
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| 36. That those who ruined the economy for the rest of us |
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are prospering from that ruin and now we are going to reward them even more. We are such suckers.
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:29 AM
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| 38. Payroll tax holiday that clearly shows you what side this admin is on. |
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:34 AM
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| 39. +1 on the bogus "Payroll Tax Holiday" |
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it's deceptive and insulting to present it that way, and weight it on our side of the scales.
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Sun Dec-12-10 08:47 AM
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And the process by which the Executive formed the bill with one Party in one House and expected the world to applaude their steamroll show. The cynicism of Barack Obama is destroying this Party.
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Sun Dec-12-10 03:08 PM
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| 42. Payroll tax holiday. --nt |
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