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Wed Dec-08-10 03:22 PM
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Why is Randi Rhodes now shilling for the White House? |
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Randi Rhodes is fervently defending the Obama Tax Cut Deal and praising Obama's smartness, and sounding like she's using White House talking points. She's emphasizing the payroll tax cut for one (which is really a Social Security funding cut) despite the danger of it leading to the permenant defunding of Social Security, thus possibly leading to the Republicans having the excuse to privatize Social Security. I used to frequently hear Randi Rhodes, but Randi Rhodes has been hard for me to listen to in recent days...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM
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1. Noticed Stephanie Miller doing the same this morning... |
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I guess we shunned-yet-troublesome progressives are supposed to fall in line...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:26 PM
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6. sounds like the opposite expectation to me |
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. . . the op wants these folks to just 'fall in line' behind what they believe. What's the basis for claiming these folks aren't sincere in their beliefs?
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:34 PM
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14. and per your post, what's the basis for claiming the progressives aren't sincere in theirs? |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:55 PM
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25. well, I accept the progressive argument on the issues as sincere |
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. . . I'm obviously a dissenter on tactics and strategy.
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Wed Dec-08-10 04:00 PM
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Wed Dec-08-10 04:02 PM
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you two just a had a civil discourse about two points of view!!
How could you!!!!
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Wed Dec-08-10 07:31 PM
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28. you didn't see that flying pig outside your window just now...? |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:33 PM
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12. yeah, it was a pep rally this morning wasn't it? |
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Hal Sparks had his talking points down perfect.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:46 PM
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23. Her and her shrill voiced buddy, Hal. I had to turn her off. |
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Jeez the two of them went on and on til I couldn't stand it. Like a broken record. Ugh!
I heard Bill Press, or one of his guests, say that the WH was in full tilt spin control since the weekend. They were lining up all their stooges in academia and the media to spew their loser line.
I heard that even Limbaugh is admiring Obama now that he beat up his own people.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM
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2. maybe she..... has a different opinion than you do? |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:30 PM
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10. You should've heard callers to her yesterday... |
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And even then, now it sounds like Thom Hartmann and Mike Malloy make more sense than her. She's for a while become so fervently defending of Obama that it questions to me if she's become a shill of Obama.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM
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3. cause Randi doesnt fall for BS talking points |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:24 PM
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4. shilling to you is disagreeing with you |
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She doesn't have a right to her opinion and to state that opinion on her own show? I'll bet that if she was agreeing with you that you'd take a different tack.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:25 PM
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5. She has a different opinion than you, and so do I |
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What is with the arrogance around here? Why do you think everyone must agree with you on everything?
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:27 PM
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7. Ya mean she.... uh..... CAVED?? |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:29 PM
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:27 PM
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Is there some law that all pundits have to disagree with the WH at all times? I can see it may seem that way at times, but I think we still have a First Amendment.
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DaveofCali
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:32 PM
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11. The way that Randi Rhodes defends Obama questions to me her motives... n/t |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:35 PM
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15. I guess as she says to her listeners... "Don't believe a thing I say" |
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I guess my mistake is in trusting her in being "impartial". Hey, it takes quite a bit to build trust in a listener, maybe I should find something else to hear and also cancel my subscription to her podcast...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:35 PM
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16. why would should her 'motives' be questioned |
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. . . any more than those of opponents?
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:33 PM
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13. Maybe she agrees with the White House. |
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Not everyone has the same ideas, it seems.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:35 PM
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17. Because she isn't letting her ideology turn into religion. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:37 PM
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18. That's the worst news of the day |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:40 PM
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Unrec for the use of 'Shilling' when describing people that have a different viewpoint.
That clarion call was all the rage during the election cycle and has remained. If you disagree with my stance on prescription drugs - you are a shill for big pharma. If you disagree with my stance on the oil spill - you are a shill for BP.
Some people have different opinions. Feel free to say that you disagree or that they are wrong, but to demean them by accusing them of being in the paid service for something else is just beyond the pale.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:40 PM
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20. She's old and lost her mind? Isn't that what the moderates say about |
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People just before they throw them under the bus.
Well - then -- she's old and lost her mind.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:43 PM
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21. She's entitled to her opinion and her analysis. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:45 PM
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22. Does she make over 250K???? That would be a motivator...n/t |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:52 PM
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24. Some people do believe this is a good deal. As for Randi |
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She will go along with whatever Obama wants. She is stuck in "COP" mode.
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:38 AM
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29. One indicator is that Randi has always been prone toward... |
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perpetual namedropping of the celebrities / powerful people whom she knows or whom she has simply met once or twice. She's a shameless braggart in this regard. When talking about a famous person she's met in real life, she tends to go into a euphoric state as she rambles on about what a great friendship she has with said individual. She does this often and to a sickening degree. Her attitude often comes across as: "There's no question that I'm superior to most of you because I belong to an elite social class that includes celebrities and high power politicians who YOU can never hope to interact with, much less have personal friendships with like I do." I find this disgustingly arrogant on Randi's part. She can be so rude to her callers. But when a famous or powerful person is speaking with her, it's instant respect and awe.
You might ask what the above has to do with Randi's seemingly ignorant support of Obama's recent sell out to the Republicans. Well, Randi has always been infatuated with Barack Obama and his celebrity persona. Once he became our president she seemed to commit to him unconditionally with a "he's so god-like and can do no wrong" embracement. When she commits in this way to some high-profile person, even an 'act of Congress' (proverbial pun intended) can't easily dissuade her blind defense of that person's unreasonable and / or harmful behaviors.
Randi used to demonstrate this type of blind, raving support for Bill Clinton. She started doing it when she first became nationally syndicated on Air America. She went on and on with it for quite a long time. She used to refer to him as "my president" during her sappy descriptions of how great he is / was.
The short answer: Randi is starstruck.
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:48 AM
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30. Shilling? Because she agrees that it's the ONLY bill that is going to stop the repukes |
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Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 11:50 AM by bushisanidiot
from a huge christmas present, which is a campaign theme for 2012 "OBAMA and the democrats raised your taxes!". The tea baggers are frothing at the mouth, HOPING that nothing is signed this year so that they will still be "relevant" in they eyes of the media for the next campaign season.
If the president gets the dems to sign this bill, not only does he save the lower and middle class from suffering from a tax increase, but he will also be taking the bat out of the repukes hands for the 2012 election. It's a brilliant move and we are shooting ourselves in the foot by pretending that the republicans will come around to our way of thinking and will voluntarily sign a bill that only helps those who need help. THEY WON'T!!! If that's the kind of bill that they signed, then they wouldn't be republicans. They'd be democrats!
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Fri Dec-10-10 11:56 AM
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31. When one stands to gain as much as they will under this deal |
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you can expect almost ANY person that makes that much money to support the deal.
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Fri Dec-10-10 12:01 PM
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32. She lives in DC now and has been assimilated by the Village. eom |
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