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Mon Nov-09-09 04:33 PM
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If Rolland Burris filibusters the Senate Bill for lack of a Public Option |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:35 PM
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1. Equal to Pol Pot, plus or minus Ted Bundy |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:35 PM
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2. he would probably equal dennis' douchebaggery, but unlike dennis, actually affect an outcome. |
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so i think he'd actually have more relevancy than DK.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:41 PM
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3. Just saying there are two Filibuster threats out there in the Democratic Caucus |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:42 PM
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4. well, he could never top holy joe, that's for sure. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:43 PM
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5. The next month is going to be interesting times |
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and I mean that in a chinese proverb kind of way.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:44 PM
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:47 PM
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7. Say What They Want, But My Man Don't Play |
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I support this. The point of this is regualation and giving an actual option. I think this is fair.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:53 PM
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8. Hitler+Joseph Stalin+Mao Tse Tung+Pol Pot+Charlie Manson+Richard Speck+Osama Bin Laden+Nidal Hassan |
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Who did I leave out? :sarcasm:
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:54 PM
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:20 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 05:21 PM by Garam_Masala
helped start the Iraq quagmire.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:57 PM
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10. I won't fight this move |
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He's a guy who may not run again. He's in because he replace the president. He's a career politician and he knows how to use his weight. He has the opportunity to force change now. So, no public option, then no bill. Why reward the big business that is killing our citizens?
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:09 PM
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11. Harkin said there would be a Public Option. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:40 PM
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14. He might actually earn his right to that Senate Seat, if he stopped this fucking corporate blowjob |
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Yes, forced corporatism IS worse than the status quo. Anybody who says it is not, is either paid to say that, or is simply fucking delusional.
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:41 PM
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:41 PM
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16. Yes, cause we need to wait years more for reform |
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There are many that would immediately benefit by the provisions in this bill.
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:59 PM
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17. How would anybody who doesn't have insurance NOW |
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Benefit from going to prison when they couldn't pay a corporate criminal for it?
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Mon Nov-09-09 06:02 PM
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18. How would anybody who doesn't have insurance NOW |
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Benefit from going to prison when they couldn't pay a corporate criminal for it?
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Mon Nov-09-09 06:31 PM
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For example, I will be running out of COBRA and can't get insurance on the open market because of pre-existing conditions. With reform, millions like me will have access regardless of pre-existing conditions and won't have to face recission.
In addition, there will be subsidies for those who can't pay? Did you look where you and your family fall on the chart?
Do you pay your taxes? Ever owe money to the IRS? Yes, they *can* throw you in jail, but show me the thousands of poor people they are throwing in jail for not paying taxes. The mandate will work much the same, targeting deliberate scofflaws.
Do you seriously think they are going to immediately round up thousands of people and throw them in jail?
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Mon Nov-09-09 08:38 PM
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22. "Do you pay your taxes? Ever owe money to the IRS?" |
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The IRS is NOT a private corporation. THAT is one huge fucking difference. This would be corporate power enforced by the state. And a guy named Mussolini used to call that FASCISM. Right before he partnered up with some other dork with a funny mustache.
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Mon Nov-09-09 09:54 PM
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29. Where's the chart? Have a link? |
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Mon Nov-09-09 06:32 PM
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20. I'd say Sarah Palin...I equated not supporting the bill to death panels already in existence. n/t |
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Mon Nov-09-09 06:46 PM
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21. Kucinich merely threatened to kill hundreds of thousands of people. |
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So he's not as bad as Hitler, but he's certainly a sociopath. This applies to everyone who said they would have voted No if theirs was the deciding vote.
20-40,000 people die in American each year due to no insurance, 90-110,000 die because our health care delivery system is not as efficient as France's. The bill makes progress towards alleviating both of those problems, so by extension, a vote to kill the bill is a vote to kill people. Alan Grayson was right about the Republicans being murderers, he just forgot to include Dennis Kucinich.
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Mon Nov-09-09 08:40 PM
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23. Fuck you and the avatar of a worthless human being you rode in on. |
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Dennis Kucinich is 1000 times the Democrat and public servant that your hero Spineless Harry could ever dream of being.
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Mon Nov-09-09 08:59 PM
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24. Kucinich admitted he'd vote no as the deciding vote. He's a sociopath. |
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There's really no getting around it. I'm sorry.
If you asked Howard Dean how many people would die over the next decade if HR 3962 wasn't passed, he'd likely tell you tens if not hundreds of thousands. That's just reality.
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Mon Nov-09-09 09:01 PM
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25. You think like a child. Good spelling, though. |
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Tue Nov-10-09 12:27 AM
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30. Consider the world in which the bill is passed and the one in which it isn't. |
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Hundreds of thousands more people would be dead in the world in which health care reform isn't passed, and Kucinich said he would have made this a reality if he were the deciding vote. He's a sick individual, along with all the other Republicans and conservative Democrats that would have voted no as the deciding vote. Just as Ben Nelson and the Republicans have to live with weakening the social safety net in 2001 by passing Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, Kucinich will have to live down his threat to kill thousands.
Kucinich doesn't care about the poor or the sick, he cares about his ego.
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Mon Nov-09-09 09:11 PM
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Mon Nov-09-09 09:15 PM
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almost as good as the one of *.
BTW - I accidentily unrecorded. Sorry.
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Mon Nov-09-09 09:35 PM
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Tue Nov-10-09 01:15 AM
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31. You Koochbots have to abandon your blind devotion to and adoration of the Saint. |
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He's just another egomaniacal politician entirely uninterested in the poor and the sick. A cheap imitation of Nader's vainglorious and destructive late oeuvre.
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Tue Nov-10-09 08:10 AM
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32. When Harry takes Traitor Joe's gavel |
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