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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 01:56 PM Original message |
Time vs. Ideals -- and the Kucinich vote. |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. This bill is not even good. It is nothing than another corporate BOHICA! |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. yes I read your same post in another thread |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It was Obama that chose intransigence by putting single payer off the table |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. "It would have been so easy to sell Medicare as an option for people under 65" |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. If you fight for your principles, you can take the issue to the voters |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Voters understand medicare? |
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Armstead
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. They never even tried -- And not even a voluntary version with the public option compromise |
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Aramchek
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. you actually would prefer nothing. you must already have health insurance, huh? |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Medicare! |
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Aramchek
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. so you will have your Healthcare, regardless of whether any uninsured are helped |
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kid a
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. +1 |
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FrenchieCat
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. "You heard"? that Obama is thinking of cutting Medicare as well? |
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vaberella
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yup, he got it from the Repubs. 500 Million from Foxx last "I heard". |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. AARP's tacit endorsement of Medicare cuts line its pockets, but shortchanges seniors |
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vaberella
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Lucky you. My story below... |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. read post 25 |
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Cha
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Sun Nov-08-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. What a bunch of lying rw talking points spewing outta |
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DJ13
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kucinich's Brave Health Vote Vs. Obama's Failed Promise |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. you guys can continue to post all the articles you want |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You won't get shit out of this bill if it becomes law |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. It is not precious and it is not as I wanted it |
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Barack_America
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I suspect the authors of many of these articles praising Kucinich are also insured. |
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DJ13
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. The error in your thinking is in thinking this will do anything |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. health care more affordable... lol |
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Sinti
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I love Dennis, but this was not a "brave" vote |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. had we not picked up two dem votes during the election last week |
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Sinti
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Then Dennis would have had leverage |
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vaberella
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. We'd be fucked... end of story. n/t |
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grantcart
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. exactly |
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HughMoran
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. Agreed. He actually executed an anti-principaled vote last night |
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Gregorian
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. However, I will forgive Dennis Kucinich. I will not forgive the Republicans. |
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high density
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Sun Nov-08-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. yep, last night he was on the same side as Cantor and Boner |
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Sinti
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Being a member of the House of Representatives is not about "taking sides" |
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high density
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Sun Nov-08-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Seems Kucinich isn't interested in trade-offs |
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Sinti
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Sun Nov-08-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You're making assumptions about things |
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LWolf
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Your opinion is noted. |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I wonder how many people will have to die until we all think exactly |
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LWolf
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Sun Nov-08-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. How many people will have to die |
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high density
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Sun Nov-08-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. No, healthcare reform would have just died with less than 218 votes. |
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LWolf
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Mon Nov-09-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. If every Democrat were as principled, |
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Oregone
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. Do you characterize Kennedy as fighting "with Republicans" when he fought subsidized & mandated... |
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dave29
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Do you think Kennedy would have voted no if he were in the house last night? |
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Oregone
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Any answer is based on conjecture. I *know*, as a fact, he killed such reform historically |
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vaberella
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Mon Nov-09-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Why do people use dead people to make a point? We're living in the bloody PRESENT. |
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quiet.american
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. If bill had failed, people who need help now wouldn't have jumped up and down thanking Kucinich. |
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Armstead
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Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
38. Has 40-plus years been long enough? How abourt the 15 years since it was last tried? |
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Waiting For Everyman
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Sun Nov-08-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
45. This bill is a Trojan Horse. DK knows it. |
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vaberella
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Mon Nov-09-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Republicans look at it as a Trojan horse too. n/t |
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