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ProSense
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Thu Nov-05-09 05:50 PM Original message |
Productivity surges, job growth should follow |
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ClarkUSA
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Thu Nov-05-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. A recruiter told someone I know today that the semiconductor industry is picking up. nt |
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avaistheone1
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Semiconductor manufacturing is conducted offshore. How is that going to help us? |
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ClarkUSA
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. He's hiring for positions based in this country. That counts as job growth to me. nt |
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avaistheone1
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. All the major semiconductors companies produce offshore now. What company is this? |
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ClarkUSA
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Are you looking for a job? PM me your resume and I'll send it along. nt |
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bergie321
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. That's funny |
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ClarkUSA
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Sorry to hear that... I'm just repeating what he said and I know he knows of positions. nt |
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damonm
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Thu Nov-05-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Suck it, Righties... |
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Kdillard
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Thu Nov-05-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Well they have never been right about anything so why ruin a perfect record. |
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harkadog
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Thu Nov-05-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Productively increases do not bring jobs. The exact opposite. |
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Phx_Dem
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. But analysts don't expect productivity to remain high, which should |
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Zynx
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. In the very long run the only way that aggregate standard of living improves is if productivity does |
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Enrique
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. but wages aren't growing along with productivity |
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Zynx
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. I said in the very long run. |
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CTyankee
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Wasn't it Keynes who said "In the long run, we're all dead"? I think |
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Go2Peace
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Did you know that even China is losing Industrial jobs to "productivity" and automation? |
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Zynx
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Redistributive policies can correct that. There is nothing inherently wrong with productivity |
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Go2Peace
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. True, 30 years ago we all thought the average work-week would be cut in half |
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Raineyb
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
69. Productivity has been increasing over the last 30 years |
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ProSense
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Here's the problem with your assumption |
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harkadog
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Not at all |
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mkultra
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Thu Nov-05-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. in post recession, improved productivity comes from increased work hours |
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harkadog
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Thu Nov-05-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Every economist on the planet was wrong about this recession |
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mkultra
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Thu Nov-05-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. yes clearly. except for the ones that werent |
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harkadog
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. And who was correct? |
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Zynx
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Roubini, Schiller, Stiglitz, and a number of other academic economists called |
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harkadog
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Fri Nov-06-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. "Exact nature not predictable" |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. the fact remains that the are all on record predicting the downturn |
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harkadog
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Fri Nov-06-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Most professionals put their money where their mouth is |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. most professionals avoid conflict of interest |
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harkadog
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Fri Nov-06-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. There is no conflict of interest |
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mkultra
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Sat Nov-07-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. clearly |
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Garam_Masala
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Fri Nov-06-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. Are these same folks predicting when jobs will pick up? |
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mkultra
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. hehe, well, most have said that we have made the turn |
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Go2Peace
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Answer me why almost every country in the world is losing industrial jobs? |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. yes yes, automation increases productivity |
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Go2Peace
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Fri Nov-06-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. No, productivity has been increasing fairly dramatically since the 90s |
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brentspeak
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Fri Nov-06-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
48. Precisely |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. inprecisley |
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ShortnFiery
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. +1 Only the rich benefit. The rest of us fight over the scraps. eom |
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OHdem10
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. In todays world productivity soars when workers are laid off. |
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mkultra
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Thu Nov-05-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. providing GDP stays the same or grows. |
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Armstead
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. The GDP swill continue to fall as we outsource production and jobs |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. except that GDP is now growing |
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Armstead
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Fri Nov-06-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Today.....nt |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. or July August and September |
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Thickasabrick
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. Actually, I read something that said the exact opposite. The fact |
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ProSense
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. There are those arguments, but |
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Thickasabrick
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Thu Nov-05-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I agree it is promising but only if consumers follow and start buying |
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windbreeze
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. automation is also a factor, I believe... |
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Go2Peace
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. People need to wake up, life will never work quite the same. Factories and services are automating |
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ShortnFiery
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Thu Nov-05-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
23. bullshit. eom |
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Yavin4
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Thu Nov-05-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. All of these Economic Models Are Based Old Models of Domestic Workers |
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Zynx
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. This is a measure of domestic production. |
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Yavin4
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Fri Nov-06-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. It Still Does Not Reflect Work Being Done Overseas |
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Zynx
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. They are not counted regardless. |
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Yavin4
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Sat Nov-07-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. In The Age of the Internet.... |
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Garam_Masala
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. Productivity Increase = less people doing more! Less jobs! |
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Teaser
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Fri Nov-06-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. yes, yes, everyone knows that |
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CTyankee
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Fri Nov-06-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. It seems to me that if demand is diminished, no matter how productive workers are |
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uponit7771
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Fri Nov-06-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Increased productivity being seen as a good indictor is top down (or supply side or "trickle" down) |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. that would be true if it were not coupled with a jump in GDP |
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treestar
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Fri Nov-06-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. But it has to be the case before more people get hired |
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Garam_Masala
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Fri Nov-06-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You nailed it!!!!!!! No profits = Less jobs |
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
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rucky
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Fri Nov-06-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
45. I'll believe it when I'm hired. n/t |
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brentspeak
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Fri Nov-06-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. There are two types of people believe this: 1) idiots; 2) fools |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. ill be looking for end of year report on the taste of crow |
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ShortnFiery
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Bookmarking so Brentspeak and I can reveal "the truth" in the future. Will you then believe? |
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mkultra
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. well, if we get to the end of q1 2010 and UE hasnt started improving |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Fri Nov-06-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. True (though with a wrinkle) |
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. What is considered 'productivity' these days? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You're thinking of manufacturing |
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anti-bigot
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Fri Nov-06-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. kicked nt |
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Brigid
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Fri Nov-06-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
72. Three words: |
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