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Wed Nov-04-09 02:04 PM
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| Poll question: Would Terry McAuliffe have won in Virginia? |
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:shrug:
Creigh Deeds lost in his 2005 race for VA Attorney General while Tim Kaine won at the top of the ticket.
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:05 PM
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| 1. No. And neither would Moran. Kaine won because Kilgore insulted voters last week of the campaign. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM by Captain Hilts
I would have much preferred Moran.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM
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| 2. Maybe but why can't VA get a good liberal to run as a Dem? |
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Is it just too conservative there?
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM
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| 3. Yes. Conservative is the default. Ask Henry Howell supporters. nt |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:07 PM
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| 4. Up until Obama took the state, it'd been decades since it turned blue. |
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So, yeah, it's too conservative. It's a borderline state, frankly, that has a lot of rural voters and a lot of defense contractors in the north.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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| 8. Oh well. We did our best then. |
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They must have really been fed up with Bush in 2008.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:14 PM
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| 11. Yes. Including the military who saw the wars badly managed. nt |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:11 PM
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| 9. Tell that to Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, and Mark Warner |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:13 PM
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| 10. Webb's opponent committed political suicide. Being a Marine and Reagan Admin official also helped. |
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Mark Warner ran against a completely disgraced Gilmore.
Elections aren't a total meritocracy. Stuff just happens.
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| Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Nov-04-09 03:10 PM
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| 28. All the other Republcians were afraid to run against Warner |
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And don't forget that he was elected Governor before he defeated Gilmore for the Senate seat.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:14 PM
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| 12. None of whom I'd call a "Strong Liberal" |
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Mind you, I like all of them, but they're not exactly DU All Stars, so to speak. So I stand by my comments.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:16 PM
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| 13. But they did turn the state blue |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:32 PM
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| 24. Yes, but a sickly shade of greenish corporate-blue at the expense of the Working Class. n/t |
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Wed Nov-04-09 03:10 PM
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| 29. The working class elected these guys |
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Wed Nov-04-09 10:27 PM
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Blue dogs are turning ghoulish GREEN for GREEDY.
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Wed Nov-04-09 11:11 PM
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You mean all the lobbyists, "defense" contractors and CIA scumbags who make up the population of Northern Virginia?
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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| 21. Yes, we're all in love with conservative blue dogs within our party. |
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Wed Nov-04-09 03:08 PM
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| 27. For some reason voters seem to like them |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:43 PM
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| 25. The state is chock full of fundies and military personnel |
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Not to mention it straddles Appalachia.
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| SCRUBDASHRUB
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Wed Nov-04-09 09:42 PM
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| 33. This Virginian isn't a fundie. No military in my immediate family. |
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To win in VA, Dems have to run as "centrists", unfortunately. When Mark Warner ran for governor, he got a lot of support not only from Dems, but Republicans, too (I remember seeing Sportsmen for Warner stickers).
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:08 PM
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| 5. No and he'd make us all embarrassed |
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Deeds was a bad candidate but Terry's antics on the national scene for six months is not what anyone wants.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:23 PM
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| 17. I find a 19% loss rather embarrassing |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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| 19. Well do that and have Terry on Morning Joe the next day |
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drinking rum. When you are the incumbent party in a bad economy and your opponent's bumper sticker says Bob for Jobs...you are going to lose.
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Wed Nov-04-09 07:57 PM
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| 31. What bad economy? Obama has this well in hand! Happy days are here again! |
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I sure as he!! hope that my subject line is true in 2010, or we will have more Deeds on our hands.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:08 PM
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| 6. He'd have done a lot better than Deeds. |
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At least he would've run a far better campaign. I'm not sure he would've won, but it certainly would've been a lot closer.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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| 7. I've lived in Virginia |
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for over 30 years. No way McAuliffe could have won.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 PM
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I'm old enough to remember when Virginia closed their public schools rather than integrate them.
So, although Virginia has come a long way, especially because of the growth of northern Virginia, the Dems won't win unless they have first rate candidates and politicians like Mark Warner.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:45 PM
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| 26. I remember in the early 80's |
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there was a restaurant near where I was living that refused to serve black people! This was near northern Virginia.
You are right. It takes a first rate Democratic candidate to win in Virginia.
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Wed Nov-04-09 07:52 PM
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| 30. Most of my long term Dem friends sorta looked upon |
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McAuliffe as a political carpet bagger. He had no experience in Virginia politics.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:20 PM
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| 14. Probably not, but it would have been a Hell of a lot closer. nt |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:22 PM
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| 16. Probably not, but he would have run a real campaign |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:29 PM
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| 18. No, but JIM MORAN would have brought out our base. Too bad that carpetbagger McAulliffe ... |
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split the LIBERAL vote and left conservative Deeds as our nominee.
Terry McAuliffe? Take him! Please. :puke:
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Wed Nov-04-09 09:44 PM
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| 34. Brian Moran was running in the primary, not Jim. |
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Wed Nov-04-09 10:33 PM
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| 36. Oops! Thanks. I stand corrected. |
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Thu Nov-05-09 12:39 AM
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| 39. That's exactly what happened. |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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| 20. Nah, McDonnell was too good a candidate. |
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It probably would have less of an embarassing landslide, though.
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 PM
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| 23. Even with his thesis? It should have been his "Macaca" moment |
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Wed Nov-04-09 02:30 PM
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| 22. He would have lost AND embarrased the party. |
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At least Deeds only did one of those.
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Wed Nov-04-09 09:31 PM
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| 32. He was trounced in the primary and would have fared |
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little or no better than Deeds in the general.
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Wed Nov-04-09 11:18 PM
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| 38. Maybe, maybe not, but he would have been a better candidate... nt |
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Thu Nov-05-09 01:20 AM
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| 40. Terry and any other Democrat would have run into the same problem |
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independents... $700b bank bailout, $800+ billion stiumulus, $1.1 trillion proposed healthcare, cap & trade ($???b) and trillion dollar budget deficits for many years to come. 2009 should have been about lowered expectations and modest proposals with a heavy dose of economic realism... it wasn't. And if this behavior continues in 2010, expect those who participated to be steamrolled.
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Thu Nov-05-09 01:24 AM
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| 41. Snuffleuphagus McAuliffe? nope.. he's a greasy guy..too "connected" |
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and irritating as hell to watch..Who would want a governor like that?
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Thu Nov-05-09 06:55 AM
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| 42. Carpetbagging snakeoil saleman is a hard persona to diowon |
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I personalty like Terry but hie ebullient positivism seems contrived.
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Thu Nov-05-09 02:00 PM
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| 43. unsure now; but i'm leaning toward no... |
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that is certainly what i thought during the primary...
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Thu Nov-05-09 02:12 PM
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| 44. Possibly...he certainly would have come closer...nt |
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