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In reply to the discussion: I'm beginning to think it's a no-brainer for Joe. [View all]Celerity
(51,583 posts)40. I have said one name for VP for over a year, so why stop now, Stacey Abrams
she has 'IT'
Shedloads of charisma, insanely powerful speaker, an A-A ENERGISER (Klobuchar would be a damp squib here, she polled worse than Pete with my fellow PoC, and has the same racial/legal problematic past, even though that is so unfair to both her and Pete), compelling backstory, perfect age, has leadership experience on a major state House for years, puts GA and NC in play, helps nail down FL, is progressive enough to excite many on the left etc etc etc. (BoB'ers can sod off, they will never vote for our candidate anyway, by the very nature of their self-labelling, ffs, and almost none are Dems anyway)
Abrams is what is NEEDED as Biden has to add some magnetic and kinetic energy to the ticket. He has a 40yo and under voter issue (deny this at all our peril, this is no time to be trying to ram a take-it-or-leave-it stance chasing down centre-right voters in Scottsdale, AZ, Dallas TX, etc. like Hillary fatally did in 2016 with her campaign's 'expand-the-map' massive late blundering), and someone like Klobuchar is so not going to help with that. Abrams WILL help here, tremendously.
WE NEED an 'IT' woman on the ticket, as we are going straight into the jaws of the biggest beast/threat this nation has EVER seen in terms of a so-called leader. Abrams can rattle the FUCK out that fat piece of orange dogshit Rump. She is more than capable of dropping a BOMB on his berk arse, and the same goes for her SHREDDING Pence in a debate.

Vice-president Stacey Abrams would make the US a real democracy for the first time
Abrams could use her office to be the driving force behind a nationwide fight against voter suppression
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/vice-president-stacey-abrams-real-democracy-first-time-biden-sanders

Democratic debates in times of coronavirus make for even less interesting television than during normal times, whatever that means in the Trump era. In Sunday nights debate, Bernie Sanders had a double task. For the believers, to make a last pitch that he is the better candidate (which, in terms of the presidency, he clearly is). For the realists, his task was to push the inevitable nominee, Joe Biden, more to the left. He probably achieved neither, as Biden stole the show, by announcing (cleverly) that he will pick a female vice-presidential candidate, a progressive weak point of Sanders (who has remained unclear on this point).
Of course, the announcement should come as little surprise, given how important women have been in the anti-Trump mobilization the 2017 Womens March was likely the largest single-day demonstration in US history, while black and suburban women were crucial to the blue wave that brought the Democratic party the House of Representatives in the 2018 midterm elections. And there has been broad and loud disappointment that the most diverse candidate field in any US primary has ended up with just two old white men standing.
Social media was quick to speculate and two names came up most often: Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams. Both women would cater to not just women but also African Americans, two crucial demographics for the Democrats in November, with African American women being proclaimed the saviors of the Democratic party in the midterm elections. Although Harris has many merits, she also has at least two important weaknesses. First of all, she is from California, a rather unique and ultimately safe Democratic state, and her campaign does not necessarily indicate that her appeal reaches much broader. Second, she has a problematic past in terms of social justice, which also haunted her during her campaign, and could strengthen the authoritarian image of Biden, who has a long track record of being on the wrong side of social justice issues.
Stacey Abrams, on the other hand, has strengths that can help Biden in the campaign, being an African American woman from the south-east (which has several potential swing states), but could also give his presidency a crucial secondary agenda the primary agenda being the return to relatively mainstream liberal Democratic politics. Abrams came to fame for her campaign for Georgia governor in 2018, which she lost against the man who oversaw the elections, Brian Kemp. While she was often described as an identity politics candidate outside of the Peach State, this was more a reflection of the ignorance, and prejudice of the journalists than of the politics of the candidate. She actually ran on a rather moderate agenda, knowing that while Georgia was in play, it is still the south, and southerners like their Democrats moderate to conservative, if they like them at all.
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Shedloads of charisma, insanely powerful speaker, an A-A ENERGISER (Klobuchar would be a damp squib here, she polled worse than Pete with my fellow PoC, and has the same racial/legal problematic past, even though that is so unfair to both her and Pete), compelling backstory, perfect age, has leadership experience on a major state House for years, puts GA and NC in play, helps nail down FL, is progressive enough to excite many on the left etc etc etc. (BoB'ers can sod off, they will never vote for our candidate anyway, by the very nature of their self-labelling, ffs, and almost none are Dems anyway)
Abrams is what is NEEDED as Biden has to add some magnetic and kinetic energy to the ticket. He has a 40yo and under voter issue (deny this at all our peril, this is no time to be trying to ram a take-it-or-leave-it stance chasing down centre-right voters in Scottsdale, AZ, Dallas TX, etc. like Hillary fatally did in 2016 with her campaign's 'expand-the-map' massive late blundering), and someone like Klobuchar is so not going to help with that. Abrams WILL help here, tremendously.
WE NEED an 'IT' woman on the ticket, as we are going straight into the jaws of the biggest beast/threat this nation has EVER seen in terms of a so-called leader. Abrams can rattle the FUCK out that fat piece of orange dogshit Rump. She is more than capable of dropping a BOMB on his berk arse, and the same goes for her SHREDDING Pence in a debate.

Vice-president Stacey Abrams would make the US a real democracy for the first time
Abrams could use her office to be the driving force behind a nationwide fight against voter suppression
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/vice-president-stacey-abrams-real-democracy-first-time-biden-sanders

Democratic debates in times of coronavirus make for even less interesting television than during normal times, whatever that means in the Trump era. In Sunday nights debate, Bernie Sanders had a double task. For the believers, to make a last pitch that he is the better candidate (which, in terms of the presidency, he clearly is). For the realists, his task was to push the inevitable nominee, Joe Biden, more to the left. He probably achieved neither, as Biden stole the show, by announcing (cleverly) that he will pick a female vice-presidential candidate, a progressive weak point of Sanders (who has remained unclear on this point).
Of course, the announcement should come as little surprise, given how important women have been in the anti-Trump mobilization the 2017 Womens March was likely the largest single-day demonstration in US history, while black and suburban women were crucial to the blue wave that brought the Democratic party the House of Representatives in the 2018 midterm elections. And there has been broad and loud disappointment that the most diverse candidate field in any US primary has ended up with just two old white men standing.
Social media was quick to speculate and two names came up most often: Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams. Both women would cater to not just women but also African Americans, two crucial demographics for the Democrats in November, with African American women being proclaimed the saviors of the Democratic party in the midterm elections. Although Harris has many merits, she also has at least two important weaknesses. First of all, she is from California, a rather unique and ultimately safe Democratic state, and her campaign does not necessarily indicate that her appeal reaches much broader. Second, she has a problematic past in terms of social justice, which also haunted her during her campaign, and could strengthen the authoritarian image of Biden, who has a long track record of being on the wrong side of social justice issues.
Stacey Abrams, on the other hand, has strengths that can help Biden in the campaign, being an African American woman from the south-east (which has several potential swing states), but could also give his presidency a crucial secondary agenda the primary agenda being the return to relatively mainstream liberal Democratic politics. Abrams came to fame for her campaign for Georgia governor in 2018, which she lost against the man who oversaw the elections, Brian Kemp. While she was often described as an identity politics candidate outside of the Peach State, this was more a reflection of the ignorance, and prejudice of the journalists than of the politics of the candidate. She actually ran on a rather moderate agenda, knowing that while Georgia was in play, it is still the south, and southerners like their Democrats moderate to conservative, if they like them at all.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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In a perfect world, I agree. But this time we need to win the election above all else.
mobeau69
Apr 2020
#2
Preet or Sally would be my choice. Adam is best in the House. We need him there soooooo much!
onetexan
Apr 2020
#45
Well, the life expectancy of a man born in '43 is about 63. Joe is 77. It HAS to be considered.
oldsoftie
Apr 2020
#50
Oh lord. Ignoring reality is what helps trump. Who also happens to be 74 in a few weeks.
oldsoftie
Apr 2020
#53
mobeau69, Mayor Pete is highly intelligent and answers questions better than pretty much anyone.
Sloumeau
Apr 2020
#18
Joe is no push over. Remember he destroyed Ryan in the 2012 VP debate and he just...
brush
Apr 2020
#32
Her infamous debate moment will be a constant 24/7 Fox News loop that will be a huge distraction
Skya Rhen
Apr 2020
#37
Biden any minute, now that Bernie is out. She maintained neutrality due to her national GOTV efforts
Celerity
Apr 2020
#49