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Gothmog

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17. The bulk of the party should select another moderate
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 03:02 PM
Apr 2020

The vast majority of the party has rejected sanders and so sanders will never be the nomimee. sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.



Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.

But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.

In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....

These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....

Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.

As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.

The vast bulk of the party does not like sanders and so the will of the majority needs to be respected and another moderate selected.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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since nobody has a majority, the convention should be open. the dismissive one(s) will be angry msongs Apr 2020 #1
exactly right. stopdiggin Apr 2020 #16
Democrats True Blue American Apr 2020 #51
That's my thinking as well. nt pazzyanne Apr 2020 #52
If there is an actual convention I hope Cuomo is invited to speak. n/t monmouth4 Apr 2020 #66
watch this video of Andrew Cuomo saying "No" to his brother IcyPeas Apr 2020 #56
Quick question: Polybius Apr 2020 #70
He Would Not Be Un-Opposed, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #71
But what about the candidates that already dropped out? Polybius Apr 2020 #72
The Vulture Dream Will Not Pay Off, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #74
It's not my dream, stop accusing people of bad intentions without proof Polybius Apr 2020 #75
The Guilty Flieth Where None Doth Pursue, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #77
My first choice was Warren Polybius Apr 2020 #102
Professor Warren, Sir, Was My Preferred Candidate As Well The Magistrate Apr 2020 #105
So there ya go, we had more in common than we first thought Polybius Apr 2020 #107
Timings Would Need Careful Management, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #109
Indeed. ucrdem Apr 2020 #78
Bernie is living in your head fallout87 Apr 2020 #92
You Think, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2020 #94
Yes Im sure of it. fallout87 Apr 2020 #96
Again, Sir, What Keeps Me Up At Night Would Definitely Be Too Much Information The Magistrate Apr 2020 #98
Don't get your hopes up...as Sanders has less than 30% of vote...brokered convention and then Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #2
I don't wish death on anyone Don1 Apr 2020 #8
Yes, your concern is palpable. MineralMan Apr 2020 #83
I am not hoping Biden dies. Don1 Apr 2020 #85
I'm sure you are not. MineralMan Apr 2020 #86
Nonetheless, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #89
I doubt that and I can sense the glee in your OP DenverJared Apr 2020 #106
At this point in 2016 he had 1091 delegates, this time around he's got only 924. He was behind.... George II Apr 2020 #20
I would imagine they'd push hard for Cuomo jimfields33 Apr 2020 #3
I think Cuomo is popular right at the moment. Don1 Apr 2020 #6
I believe after first vote, all delegates are released and they can vote for jimfields33 Apr 2020 #40
If it were a Marvel movie Lulu KC Apr 2020 #4
If it were a Marvel movie LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #50
Instead we have goats taking over towns in Wales Lulu KC Apr 2020 #63
'Bernie' Would Lose To a Dead Man, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #5
Can you point to a specific law or policy in documentation Don1 Apr 2020 #11
Dead Men Have Won Elections Before, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #18
Are you certain that Biden delegates "hate Bernie deeply"? Mister Ed Apr 2020 #36
'Bernie', Sir, Grossly Underestimates The Feeling Against Him The Magistrate Apr 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Apr 2020 #62
As Magistrate says. It wouldn't be Sanders, not because he's hated, Hortensis Apr 2020 #46
I don't think most Biden supporters hate Bernie. Don1 Apr 2020 #38
His VP DownriverDem Apr 2020 #7
This kind of makes sense. Don1 Apr 2020 #14
I wouldn't count on that. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #35
I think that depends pinkstarburst Apr 2020 #54
What do you think ought to happen? Anon-C Apr 2020 #9
Ain't gonna happen. Biden is fit as a fiddle, and access to some excellent health care. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2020 #10
The big questions melm00se Apr 2020 #12
I suspect Biden will pick a VP very soon Don1 Apr 2020 #19
Each of these dates melm00se Apr 2020 #25
If we reach the convention where no one has a majority of Delegates, Sloumeau Apr 2020 #13
BS is more likely to die from corona due to age and recent heart attack... Callado119 Apr 2020 #15
+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #24
+1 Lulu KC Apr 2020 #65
I 100% agree, AND I even mentioned in the op that Don1 Apr 2020 #81
The bulk of the party should select another moderate Gothmog Apr 2020 #17
That's exactly what would happen BidenBacker Apr 2020 #22
Let's not make Biden out to be Republican Lite. Don1 Apr 2020 #37
That Is Crawfishing, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #45
You are wrong Gothmog Apr 2020 #47
bernie and pete were pretty much tied in Iowa. NOT a strong finish in Iowa nt msongs Apr 2020 #41
30% as it may, is still higher than any of the others fallout87 Apr 2020 #97
70% of the party does not want sanders to be the nominee. Gothmog Apr 2020 #99
I like Gavin Newsom Polybius Apr 2020 #113
My governor is busy right now, if you don't mind Hekate Apr 2020 #114
I'll admit it---I'm superstitious--Don't tempt fate FFS n/t mtngirl47 Apr 2020 #21
This is truly macabre violasays Apr 2020 #23
It Is The Depth To Which They Have Sunk, Ma'am, This Vulture's Hope The Magistrate Apr 2020 #30
Maybe that's why BS stayed in Vermont? BidenBacker Apr 2020 #39
+1000 Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #58
Bookmarking for after I wash socks. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2020 #26
Wash ours too, whilst you are at it, I am so sick of doing laundry. Celerity Apr 2020 #88
I don't see the purpose of sowing doubts with speculation bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #27
That's the intent. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #32
Hypothetical: If Bernie dies of coronavirus, will "undecideds" finally support Biden? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #28
I think that his delegates transfer to the next of kin Under The Radar Apr 2020 #29
It will go to the... Mike Nelson Apr 2020 #31
An open convention where someone other than Sanders would be nominated Jose Garcia Apr 2020 #33
Before the convention, we nominate Cuomo Renew Deal Apr 2020 #34
Very true Polybius Apr 2020 #73
Sanders will still not win. W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #43
It will be anyone but Sanders. honest.abe Apr 2020 #44
Talk about macabre! Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #48
Life is macabre right now. Don1 Apr 2020 #53
If Biden dies, the party will pick a Democrat LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #55
First, let's all hope that nothing like this happens. StevieM Apr 2020 #49
"I know this is terrible. BUT... LakeArenal Apr 2020 #57
Cuomo should be drafted. Squinch Apr 2020 #59
Yeah, he's an obvious choice given our circumstances. JenniferJuniper Apr 2020 #60
I agree. OnDoutside Apr 2020 #61
I just love concern trolling. n/t nolawarlock Apr 2020 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Grokenstein Apr 2020 #79
Bad taste in my opinion to even bring this up. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #67
One thing about it, Bernie will never be the nominee Wanderlust988 Apr 2020 #68
Probably Cuomo Polybius Apr 2020 #69
I think that after his behavior, most Democrats would not tolerate Senator Sanders. n/t. NNadir Apr 2020 #84
"They"? For the umpteenth time: 70% of actual Democrats voted AGAINST Bernie. Hekate Apr 2020 #115
sanders will not be the nominee Gothmog Apr 2020 #76
Looks like Palmer was right on the money. ucrdem Apr 2020 #80
It is, indeed, terrible. MineralMan Apr 2020 #82
Political campaigns ARE "based on such possibilities." Don1 Apr 2020 #87
I see. And yet, the only name you mentioned in your title was Biden. MineralMan Apr 2020 #90
Give it up. Codeine Apr 2020 #91
It's the worst kept secret here! William769 Apr 2020 #93
Trying to chum the waters, are you? Hekate Apr 2020 #95
A Reasonable Assumption, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #100
One or two or more candidates will re-enter Coleman Apr 2020 #101
This is utterly morbid thinking DenverJared Apr 2020 #103
What ought to happen DarthDem Apr 2020 #104
What would it matter what Biden died of? treestar Apr 2020 #108
I hope Biden's campaign team are also going on a plan B - if he has to go up against Pence. nt woodsprite Apr 2020 #110
Andrew Cuomo #1 if Biden and Bernie were struck by lightning. oasis Apr 2020 #111
I tried to reply last night around 2:00 AM, but it said that I couldn't reply to locked threads Polybius Apr 2020 #112
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