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Celerity

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19. to claim the UK as a 'hybrid system' is very disingenuous

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:04 PM

Mar 2020

I am a UK citizen, London-raised.

The private sector healthcare there is extremely limited and small, and mostly caters to the rich flying in from around the old remnants of the Empire and places like the ME with the ruling Saudis, UAE, etc jetting in for Rolls Royce health holidays.

Also, the private insurers used in the other advanced nations in the world are VASTLY more regulated and cost effective than the US for-profit model.

There is not a single OECD nation that would switch systems with the US for healthcare. The US spends far more per person than any other nation and delivers overall poor results. It is a giant wealth extraction scheme as currently configured. MFA will never pass under the current overall American political superstructure, but it is simply bollocks to say it is a good model, even with full-blown Obamacare unimpeded by any Rethug interference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I beg you to stop politicizing this, COVID-19 as all about M4A. [View all] sheshe2 Mar 2020 OP

Amen to that!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #1

Kick! mcar Mar 2020 #2

Not sure how bringing up how nice it would be if everyone had insurance at a time like now ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #3

Yes, my mileage varies. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #8

do you realize for the uninsured everyday is a crisis? questionseverything Mar 2020 #29

So. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #35

my post didnt say one thing about bernie or biden for that matter questionseverything Mar 2020 #42

italy has universal health care and guaranteed one month paid vacation nt msongs Mar 2020 #4

Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #12

Italy has what Bernie wants BidenBacker Mar 2020 #22

+1000 Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #25

You are conflating two different things. Gore1FL Mar 2020 #49

That was exactly my point BidenBacker Mar 2020 #78

M4A would be a disaster relayerbob Mar 2020 #5

Thank God the benevolent insurance companies have our backs! ZZenith Mar 2020 #6

It's about having alternatives relayerbob Mar 2020 #9

But you would agree their balance is way closer to socializing the costs than ours, yes? ZZenith Mar 2020 #13

AS I said elsewhere relayerbob Mar 2020 #32

Get back with me in a couple of weeks on that death rate, thanks. ZZenith Mar 2020 #36

Yes ZZ !!!!!! DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #46

Rate .... not total number relayerbob Mar 2020 #64

Your preference for a for-profit healthcare system is noted as well. Cheers. ZZenith Mar 2020 #65

Where exactly did I say that????? relayerbob Mar 2020 #66

I say again DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #73

Perhaps your main beef is with your fucked-up political system. luvtheGWN Mar 2020 #56

Precisely. ZZenith Mar 2020 #62

Ya think? relayerbob Mar 2020 #63

Funny how we don't have that worry. luvtheGWN Mar 2020 #71

Yes, obviously it is relayerbob Mar 2020 #72

to claim the UK as a 'hybrid system' is very disingenuous Celerity Mar 2020 #19

Thank you. ZZenith Mar 2020 #21

I thought I detected an accent in your posts BidenBacker Mar 2020 #23

BoJo the bellend can go sod the fuck off, along with the rest of the Tories and their Lib Dem Celerity Mar 2020 #28

LOL...you really shouldn't hold back when you post, Cel BidenBacker Mar 2020 #33

To assume I am for insurance is a mistake relayerbob Mar 2020 #31

Then why did you push clear disinfo about the UK? Also you've no idea what the true and final death Celerity Mar 2020 #44

Try not being a jerk relayerbob Mar 2020 #51

I was born in Los Angeles, moved with my parents at less than 2 years old to London, where I was Celerity Mar 2020 #53

You also don't have a political party whose main purpose relayerbob Mar 2020 #38

Go tell that to a MFA fangirl, cuz you are not engaged in a colloquy when you're conversing with me. Celerity Mar 2020 #47

You aren't even making any sense relayerbob Mar 2020 #50

you need some manners, ya' obviously got no broughtupsy, to wax Bajan for a wee bit Celerity Mar 2020 #55

A Skilled Politician, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #77

have a look at this, Sir, from July, 2019, attacking Biden's (and thus all the other candidates as Celerity Mar 2020 #80

I Agree There Will Be Opposition, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #83

We need 60 votes, and even if we need a simple majority, and even of we take it back by say a 52-48 Celerity Mar 2020 #84

I Do Not Disagree, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #85

Love that cartoon! BidenBacker Mar 2020 #81

me too! Celerity Mar 2020 #82

I'm serious, Cel...LOL BidenBacker Mar 2020 #86

Better they than Trump. Mine called today to offer numbers to call for telemedicine visits, mental emmaverybo Mar 2020 #18

And this!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #26

A fair request made in a beautiful way. marble falls Mar 2020 #7

Hey, mf. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #11

+1 ucrdem Mar 2020 #69

I don't listen much if at all to Bernie any more BidenBacker Mar 2020 #10

++++++++++++++++++++++++++ emmaverybo Mar 2020 #20

Good luck with that. William769 Mar 2020 #14

I know, William. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15

My prayers are with you and your family. William769 Mar 2020 #16

Love you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #17

Bernie is Just Being Selfish By Using CV-19 to Push M4All Indykatie Mar 2020 #24

+1 sheshe2 Mar 2020 #27

Nutshell BidenBacker Mar 2020 #30

+1000 sheshe2 Mar 2020 #37

Man BidenBacker Mar 2020 #39

I agree that M4A doesn't help our current situation and arguing about t doesn't solve immediate... mjvpi Mar 2020 #34

actually if we had m4a, we would have more docs, nurses and hospitals since we would be treating the questionseverything Mar 2020 #45

Really? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #57

stands to reason if we had a system that treated an additional 70 million peops questionseverything Mar 2020 #87

I am not trying to cause issues here or fight with you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #88

hopefully if we have a system based on peops needs instead of profits questionseverything Mar 2020 #89

I hope you are right. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #92

your neice is a hero, as are the other docs and nurses questionseverything Mar 2020 #94

K&R! Bravo! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #40

He has said that as president he'll have rallies and the people will force Republicans to do betsuni Mar 2020 #41

He has been rallying/ campaigning for 5 years now. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #54

I always think of a reporter's description of her first interview with him. betsuni Mar 2020 #58

You nailed it. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #59

the fact he is undermining NewEnglandAutumn Mar 2020 #43

We have a psychopath in the WH. He wants people to die. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #48

We already have more cases than Italy, and are likely to have exponentially more deaths. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #52

Isn't complaining about people talking about it doing exactly the same? Kali Mar 2020 #60

Welp, Kali. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #61

I guess I'm referring to you Kali Mar 2020 #67

No. ucrdem Mar 2020 #68

Lol sheshe2 Mar 2020 #70

Always loved that song ucrdem Mar 2020 #93

Sorry. It isn't "politicizing it" to point out how people without insurance kcr Mar 2020 #74

Did you see the OP the other day? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #79

I didn't read that thread, but it doesn't matter. kcr Mar 2020 #95

Pilot Putinpuppet BidenBacker Mar 2020 #75

... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #90

Kick SheltieLover Mar 2020 #76

Thank you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #91