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Uncle Joe

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58. Well here is more than a block quote regarding Chait's JUDGMENT
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020


(snip)

There are three reasons, in descending order of obviousness, for a liberal to earnestly and patriotically support a Trump Republican nomination. The first, of course, is that he would almost certainly lose. Trump’s ability to stay atop the polls for months, even as critics predicted his demise, has given him an aura of voodoo magic that frightens some Democrats. But whatever wizardry Trump has used to defy the laws of political gravity has worked only within his party. Among the electorate as a whole, he is massively — indeed, historically — unpopular, with unfavorable ratings now hovering around 60 percent and a public persona almost perfectly designed to repel the Obama coalition: racial minorities, single women, and college-educated whites. It would take a landscape-altering event like a recession for him to win; even that might not be enough.

Second, a Trump nomination might upend his party. The GOP is a machine that harnesses ethno-nationalistic fear — of communists, criminals, matrimonial gays, terrorists, snooty cultural elites — to win elections and then, once in office, caters to its wealthy donor base. (This is why even a social firebrand like Ted Cruz would privately assure the billionaire investor Paul Singer that he wasn’t particularly concerned about gay-marriage laws.) As its voting base has lost college-­educated voters and gained blue-collar whites, the fissure between the means by which Republicans attain power and the ends they pursue once they have it has widened.

What has most horrified conservative activists about Trump’s rise is how little he or his supporters seem to care about their anti-government ideology. When presented with the candidate’s previous support for higher taxes on the rich or single-payer insurance, heresies of the highest order, Trump fans merely shrug. During this campaign, Trump has mostly conformed to party doctrine, but without much conviction. Trump does not mouth the rote conservative formulation that government is failing because it can’t work and that the solution is to cut it down to size. Instead, he says it is failing because it is run by idiots and that the solution is for it to instead be run by Trump. About half of Republicans favor higher taxes on the rich, a position that has zero representation among their party’s leaders. And those Republicans are the most likely to support Trump.

The third reason to prefer a Trump nomination: If he does win, a Trump presidency would probably wind up doing less harm to the country than a Marco Rubio or a Cruz presidency. It might even, possibly, do some good.

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/02/why-liberals-should-support-a-trump-nomination.html




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How many more posts about this photo op BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #1
When You Have Nothing Else Me. Mar 2020 #2
Let it sink BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #3
K&R FiveGoodMen Mar 2020 #4
Nobody really heard Bernie's speech, and it didn't change MineralMan Mar 2020 #5
He was absent while others were doing the hard work, right? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #15
Yes, he was. by the time he gave his fiery speech, what he called MineralMan Mar 2020 #16
How bizarre it is that people like Brianna Gray were singing his praises from the rooftops... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #18
Bernie does not realize that the leaders of his own staff MineralMan Mar 2020 #19
I believe there is a simple explanation for his campaign staff choices... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #20
Sadly, I'm coming to a place where I believe you could be correct. MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
He Views Such People, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #22
I Believe You May Be Putting the Cart Before the Horse, Sir. MineralMan Mar 2020 #24
Simple Explainations Are Usually Best, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #25
They Are Adequate for Simple People, I Agree, Sir. MineralMan Mar 2020 #26
A Person Of Sensitive Temperament, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #27
I have no manservants, Sir. MineralMan Mar 2020 #28
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Language Is My Life, Sir. MineralMan Mar 2020 #33
THIS Is What an Opposition Party Is Supposed to Sound Like... lapucelle Mar 2020 #31
Go Bernie. zonkers Mar 2020 #6
He was ignored by everyone. showblue22 Mar 2020 #7
Opposition party? When one constantly bashes the republican party AND the Democratic Party..... George II Mar 2020 #8
No other candidate campaigns against the Democratic party, just Bernie. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #23
THIS Is What an Opposition Party Is Supposed to Sound Like lapucelle Mar 2020 #32
Will There Be Further Instalments After Lunch, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9
A party of one isn't effective opposition... comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #10
From that article (you could have included this in the OP): George II Mar 2020 #11
Exactly right LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #14
Oh the Establishment treestar Mar 2020 #17
Anyone could also actually read the article, Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #34
Nice To See The 'Top Line Packing' At Work, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #35
Your cynicism is noted sir, however I would welcome anyone to read any comment Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #36
As The Man Said, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #39
How about your ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY about the future in a world full of doubt combined Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #40
I Stand By The Statement, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #44
The same Johnathan Chait that initially supported the war with Iraq? Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #47
Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #50
Was Chait's supporting the greatest foreign policy disaster since the 1960s the only thing Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #54
Didn't Even Bother With Your Block-Quote, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #56
Well here is more than a block quote regarding Chait's JUDGMENT Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #58
None Of It Matters, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #59
The article gave credit to Schumer and other Democrats who were responsible... George II Mar 2020 #37
Yes the article did that but it was also titled after Bernie specifically Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #38
At the time Sanders expressed that moral outrage the bill had already been hammered out.... George II Mar 2020 #41
Nothing is hammered out until it's passed, everyone in the Senate has phone or Internet Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #43
Once a bill is introduced and debate begins it won't change until after a failing vote.... George II Mar 2020 #48
Which Is Why You Put It Up, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #42
That's correct sir because this is the Democratic Primary forum Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #45
That Is What It Is, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #46
Biden pets a puppy and smiles at a child, Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #49
You Will Have To Put Up A Link To That, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #51
You are more than welcome to post pictures of Sanders revmclaren Mar 2020 #57
Oh Bernie is great at the fiery speech.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #12
Good speech but Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #13
As usual, Bernie supporters adore what he SAYS, even though he DOES nothing. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #29
Man, this is getting old BidenBacker Mar 2020 #52
The Nation Aquaria Mar 2020 #53
Yes, if only it weren't opposition to the Democratic Party. n/t TygrBright Mar 2020 #55
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