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Uncle Joe

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6. No, it's over a 100 years old.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:15 PM
Mar 2020


1900s–1920s

In the first 10–15 years of the 20th century Progressivism was influencing both Europe and the United States.[7] Many European countries were passing the first social welfare acts and forming the basis for compulsory government-run or voluntary subsidized health care programs.[8] The United Kingdom passed the National Insurance Act of 1911 that provided medical care and replacement of some lost wages if a worker became ill. It did not, however, cover spouses or dependents. U.S. efforts to achieve universal coverage began with progressive health care reformers who supported Theodore Roosevelt for President in 1912, though he was defeated.[9] Progressives campaigned unsuccessfully for sickness insurance guaranteed by the states.[10] A unique American history of decentralization in government, limited government, and a tradition of classical liberalism are all possible explanations for the suspicion around the idea of compulsory government-run insurance.[8] The American Medical Association (AMA) was also deeply and vocally opposed to the idea,[10] which it labeled "socialized medicine". In addition, many urban US workers already had access to sickness insurance through employer-based sickness funds.

Early industrial sickness insurance purchased through employers was one influential economic origin of the current American health care system.[11] These late-19th-century and early-20th-century sickness insurance schemes were generally inexpensive for workers: their small scale and local administration kept overhead low, and because the people who purchased insurance were all employees of the same company, that prevented people who were already ill from buying in.[11] The presence of employer-based sickness funds may have contributed to why the idea of government-based insurance did not take hold in the United States at the same time that the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe was moving toward socialized schemes like the UK National Insurance Act of 1911.[11] Thus, at the beginning of the 20th century, Americans were used to associating insurance with employers, which paved the way for the beginning of third-party health insurance in the 1930s.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_health_care_reform_in_the_United_States


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How often is this going to be posted? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
Does this make you uncomfortable? Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #3
Not at all. It goes without saying. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #5
Actually that's the problem, "it doesn't go without saying" Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #9
Name one Democrat who wants people to go bankrupt on account of medical expenses. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #12
Crickets. Not surprised n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #31
Bernie often says that the establishment thinks universal health care is a radical idea. betsuni Mar 2020 #17
As often as people go bankrupt from medical bills? ck4829 Mar 2020 #25
Not so often under the ACA, it's a start. betsuni Mar 2020 #27
Is this a new concept? William769 Mar 2020 #2
No, it's over a 100 years old. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #6
Just wanted to make sure Bernie wasn't claiming it as his own. William769 Mar 2020 #8
Again? George II Mar 2020 #4
Pass Medicare for all through both houses of congress IronLionZion Mar 2020 #7
Bingo. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #10
Do you believe Biden would sign Medicare for All Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #11
Yes. Absolutely. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #13
He already indicated he would not sign m4a bill in Last Word msnbc interview. iwannaknow Mar 2020 #15
M4a is political suicide... not sure what you don't understand about that Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #16
No he didn't. NO HE DIDN'T! The "video" being circulated by Sirota and the Sanders campaign.... George II Mar 2020 #18
No he didn't. The only thing We see in that video is the first half of his sentence... George II Mar 2020 #33
There's only one way to find out IronLionZion Mar 2020 #22
I agree. Medicaid will pick up costs in a lot of states when a patient is faced with big bills Hoyt Mar 2020 #14
MFA, if even proposed, is 5-6 years away. He should have introduced it years ago. George II Mar 2020 #19
At least. A Public Opening, with enhanced subsidies, can cover the uninsured and Hoyt Mar 2020 #20
AFIK, he has. Problem is that every time either his bill sucked or... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #28
The primary is over NCProgressive Mar 2020 #21
That was Obama's oft-repeated line frazzled Mar 2020 #23
Joe Biden withdrew in 1988 for less! George II Mar 2020 #29
K&R ck4829 Mar 2020 #24
List for me please just what SHOULD people go bankrupt over lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #26
American Journal of Public Health in 2019 : 66.5% of bankruptcies are due to medical expenses/issues Celerity Mar 2020 #30
During this time of crisis, Skidmore Mar 2020 #32
Everyone agrees on the bankruptcy statement. MineralMan Mar 2020 #34
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